fixed the single word mispellings and many suggestions.

Did not split some sentences as from my perspective the concept is not as smoothly established if broken.

"Cut grass", should citrus be put in quotations as well? Cut grass smell is 3-hexenal.

Sounds like they swallow in the same manner as all other saucebacks, so approval still applies.

I find the use of the word "rink" interesting when applied to the nostrils.

"followed by dense concentrations of feather-whiskers, a rink of nostrils at the outermost ring,"

Don't run into that description very often.

QUOTE (KXDino8 @ Jan 26 2023, 03:14 PM)

Ripper Spelunkhoe (Unguibus manibus) Creator: KXDino8 Ancestor: Dusty Spelunkhoe Habitat: Barlowe Temperate Rainforest, Barlowe Temperate Woodland Size: 70cm long Diet: Herbivore (Rainforest Carnofern, Barline, Fuzzpile, Mainland Fuzzpalm) Respiration: Lungs Thermoregulation: (Didn't say on the ancestor's page) Support: Wooden Bones Reproduction: Sexual, Two Sexes, Live Birth These fauna are more elongated than their ancestors, allowing them to slide through tunnels easily. They use their sharp beaks to pierce through flora matter and predators. Their backwards facing claws aid them in digging. They use their back feet and tails to push away dirt. They have small sails on their backs that can be raised and lowered which are used solely for display purposes. Their pinkish pattern helps to break up their shape These fauna have better vision than their ancestors and are sensitive to movement in the dark. During night they venture out of their burrows and eat any berries, vegetables, and young stalks they can find, all while one family member watches for predators. During the day they retreat to the tunnels and rest, occasionally digging around for young roots. They live in small family groups of 2-6 and mainly use their claws for breaking apart tough foods and digging. The burrows have a spiral shape which allows them to escape danger quickly. Within the burrow is one large room, in which all the family's young are raised. A family group may have multiple connected burrows or just one. Their ears have been slightly fleshed over, and their nostrils have moved up along their tail. The vestigial leaves have been completely lost. This post has been edited from the original.

I like these additions,

For the ear, you could elaborate that the flesh cover is meant to protect the eardrum from soil and damage during digging, you could add a slit or something to suggest a fold so that it may open when not digging.

I think it sounds good

A lot of carpozoans are very generic to people I imagine,

Especially when wittled down to a flunejaw

On the topic of kiiros, they should be oily

QUOTE (HethrJarrod @ Jan 27 2023, 06:12 AM)

QUOTE (colddigger @ Jan 27 2023, 03:38 AM) QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Jan 26 2023, 08:22 PM) " Because of its oil rich diet, its feathers are waterproof." Aren't oils that animals use for waterproofing usually produced by their own glands? yes If waterfowl don’t get the fatty oils they need from their diet, their feathers lose their waterproofness Changed the description to clarify: “Because of its oil rich diet, it has a special gland that processes these oils, with which the Albedophrey uses to make its feathers waterproof, similar to a duck or other waterfowl.”

I think that works well.


Oil is energy dense storage and building material.

It's a safe bet that all actively mobile organisms will have fat stores, and aquatic life will have more unsaturated fats due to sitting in warmth stripping water all their life.

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Rainforest_Carnofern

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Mainland_Fuzzpalm

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Qupe_Tree

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Clusterspades

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Barnline

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Sweet_Red_Spade

these are some possible options for organisms to add to the diet section based off the description of eating roots (Keep in mind eating tender young roots, or the roots of yearling sprouts is a thing, if you were to eye the larger options) and were taken from one of the two listed biomes.

I really like this design.

For their eyesight I would suggest giving a purpose to them being better, as opposed to becoming more blind as subterranean critters often do.

You stated they they will eat vegetables, perhaps they venture out at night and have greater light/dark sensitivity for noticing movement in the moonlight. Otherwise keeping their eyes shut while digging tunnels or resting during the day.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Jan 26 2023, 08:22 PM)

" Because of its oil rich diet, its feathers are waterproof." Aren't oils that animals use for waterproofing usually produced by their own glands?

yes

Oh that might make sense, larvae need hormonal triggers to develop their mature forms, and silenced responses exist.

The syndrome you refer to may not be the best choice if you do use an example in a description, since it seems heavily associated with lacking sexual development as well if I read right about it.


Late summer/fall is commonly the time for large plants in temperate regions to produce seeds meant for overwintering, nuts are included in that. And with that I would say yes, fall should be the time when nut bearing Flora produce mature nuts in order to overwinter and begin germination in the springtime.

This is mainly based off of plants that have one crop that develops on them, which is fairly standard for fruit trees. There are exceptions to this, for example cherry trees which happened to fruit comparatively early.


Alongside that I suppose "nut tree" is not actually a singular category and just refers to any tree that is mainly used for a hard piece of food. It's not like almonds pistachios hazelnuts acorns chestnuts cashews and walnuts are all exactly related.



This makes me wonder now about frugivores in temperate regions, such a diet would have to be either very sprawled across many kinds of sources, or very seasonal and is represented by a period of bounty as well as a period of sparseness in regard to fruits. Think of bears in temperate regions that need to hibernate, there's a period of time when there's lots and lots of berries for them to eat, but also there are periods Between these during which they will be feeding on other things.

You can use a discord link to the image placed within [I m g] link [/I m g] and that should work, remove the spaces from img in the brackets.

Just having a dietary list at the bottom of the description with the additions of particular life stages that this thing eats, larvae versus adult for example, be better?

Sounds good to me, I mean in 80 cm plant certainly relies on cell walls for its support Plus the pressure from a full vacuole of water keeping that wall rigid.

I guess plants are really pretty comparable.

Approved I would say.

I think it's great

dioramas;


Scene focused on a large piece of driftwood washed ashore, the life that had colonized it in water, and those that live on it on shore

Leaf litter in a forest, any time period

Spring in a heavily deciduous environment, either field or forest, any time period

Depictions of the homes of nest forming wingworms, and possibly organisms that interact with them

dioramas of sophonts cooking quarters, with food storage and processing tools

Ooo, a skipping gait is unique and allows a running take off to more closely derive from a standing take off.

That's fun.

Going back and rereading the description, maybe comparing it more to the heart of a fish is better. Since it seems that you had written it to be that a pair of lungs work together to pump Air from themselves to the next pair of lungs. Though I'm still unsure how the air sacs are involved, is it like each long has its own air sac that extends from it so that it's able to process more air?

Thinking about the specifics of how their limbs would move during one of these jumping takeoffs.


Although during the initial launch their legs would be extended out behind them as they jump like a grasshopper or a jerboa, I would suspect that before they actually shift they would rather immediately tuck the legs in as much as possible shift positions outward and then extend for an immediate downward flap.

This makes a lot of sense to me as it would minimize drag from the limbs during shifting. And also if they were to mess up then they could pretty comfortably capture themselves back on the ground.



This would actually benefit any species that were to attempt a running jump, as that would mean that one of their two limbs is already tucked into position in order to be able to flap, and any focus on moving their limbs would only have to go toward one of their legs.

So basically no running to give it forward momentum, that is something to consider if someone were to try to make one that did run.

Because at that point if it were to try jumping it would be on one leg, and that would be an interesting take off. I wonder what it would look like.

That kind of maneuver is probably doable? The running aspect just to speculate, it would be, for my interpretation, visually like someone swinging their leg up in order to jump over or on to something while pushing off with the other leg. I guess kind of like jumping onto a horse after you get one foot into a stirrup? But then when they push off they would grab the air and then their other leg would repeat the process and they would take off. This would involve quite a bit of flapping muscle, which they obviously have.


Launching from a standing position is pretty believable to me, just really requires them to be quite light and focus the majority of their musculature into their legs, which is what's already going on.




When I was talking about an intestine-like structure, as in a through gut like structure, I wasn't really thinking of the villi which cover the walls but rather how the intestine is a tube that pumps fluid through itself, and if it's a bunch of tidal lungs that are tied together essentially creating a Chambers that pump into one another then that sounds superficially similar. I would assume that it's really just a ton of tiny tubes that span the length of these muscle bound sacks that then squeeze all the tubes of their section at once in order to force air through the entire system.



But if airsacs are involved then I would be curious about how that works, given birds only have one hole to work with for the respiratory system while these have two, it would seem like these guys would have a much simpler method.

Flightless long toed visorbill with rapid shaking display feather toe tips when-?

do you mind making the significant changes bold to better pick up what has changed in your suggestion?

unless it is purely breaking up paragraphs.

well if anyone knows how to contact OP let them know that removing tundra is probably a good idea for this.

oh!

might you add that supplemental image to the main submission so it isn't skipped over?

Could someone else do a second review of this?


.. wait, does that supplemental image still apply? has its reproductive method changed?

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: y
Art clear?:y
Gen number?:y
All limbs shown?:y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?:y
Realistic additions?:y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?:y
Creator?:y

Ancestor:
Listed?:y
What changes?:
External?: cleft, fruit
Internal?: jornwine predation deterrant
Behavioral/Mental?:
Are Changes Realistic?: y
New Genus Needed?: y, fruit

Habitat:
Type?: 1
Flavor?: 2
Connected?: yes
Wildcard?:

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Within range?: y
Exception?:

Support:
Same as Ancestor?:
Does It Fit Habitat?:
Reasonable changes (if any)?: elaborated an exoskeleton and chitin.
Other?: it's a mesh of chitin rather than a plate, which makes me wonder if it would rely on hydrostatic skeletal support to maintain shape rather than the columnar rigid support crystals use.

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: same
Transition Rule?:
Reasonable changes (if any)?:

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: same
Does It Fit Habitat?:
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?:
Does It Fit Habitat?:
Reasonable changes (if any)?: elaborated
Other?: i dont see why stating flora is necessary

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: sure, fruiting structures but still asexual
Other?:

Description:
Length?:
Capitalized correctly?:
Replace/Split from ancestor?:
Other?: Fermi Mangal is spelled wrong, Should be Fermi Temperate Mangal

Opinion: Pending, habitat needs fixing

Could it simply say shell, and what the shell is made of rather than exoskeleton?

I suppose exoskeleton (shell)

could also work, with listing what it's made of.