https://youtube.com/shorts/7hrzllpQHJA?feature=share

Here's a spatial crank rocker mechanism, just need the four bar attachment on the single planar moving part and less sliding.

What gets me though is still how do Saucebacks twist their legs.

approved

Naucean poachers.

QUOTE (HethrJarrod @ Nov 28 2022, 08:21 PM)

QUOTE (colddigger @ Nov 28 2022, 10:21 PM) https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Rockshorian "The shell-like extension of the sauce has taken a rock like shape externally, growing layer by layer with tiny gaps in between from the inside out, letting erosion and cracks form on the surface and result in a rocky surface. " It's not defensive beyond camouflage it sounds. Complex flaky appearances are entirely doable. Just have a mix of living and nonliving layers. Isn't the sauce, part of the body protecting the brain? It should not be as fragile.

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Roofback

This i think displays the ancestral sauce outgrowths quite well.
Only the inner portion of thar connection point would actually need to be tough.

A comparison concept would be if a ceratopsid dinosaur had a delicate frill. Such a thing would grow from the skull itself but not necessarily dictate that the skull is delicate too.

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Rockshorian

"The shell-like extension of the sauce has taken a rock like shape externally, growing layer by layer with tiny gaps in between from the inside out, letting erosion and cracks form on the surface and result in a rocky surface. "

It's not defensive beyond camouflage it sounds.

Complex flaky appearances are entirely doable. Just have a mix of living and nonliving layers.

I guess I could change the size

Though genus groups seem to tend toward being pretty loose and wild in sizes anyway.

Could just call it an exception too.

"It must be mentioned that these doctor pickle compounds, though less devastating when taking affect in comparison to their ancestral chemistry, are considerably more effective over all in their ability to defend their creator, being able to burn or irritate mucus membrane and wet tissue in general. The cellulosebane fumigant of old had acted in a more selective manner toward living things that relied on wood, or cellulose, destroying tissue to the point of death. Having been coupled with the gratuitous and unrestrained release of spore clouds the airborne weapon of the cellulosebane had forced a disastrous selection process on its environment, Plents, Purple Flora, and Black Flora were destroyed indiscriminately through entire biomes. This kind of action, coupled with such a specialized weapon, meant creating a world filled with hungry fauna completely unfazed by their clouds of doom and with nothing to eat but the crystals themselves.

The doctor pickle has side stepped such folly, as had been previously described, with application being more reserved in release, more general in what it can affect, and less devastating in results."


How's that?
I would just slap it under the original paragraph.

I've also edited some wrong words in the mitosis and reproduction sections.

Someone else please give a second review of this submission

Edited for names.

One thing I want to mention is I do make reference to the innards of the cellulosebane crystal, I had asked hydro his thoughts on it and he had said he's cool with such a thing. Since the only crystal of old to reference their innards suggested floors and hatches and such, I think it fits well.

I'm aware that disgustedorite wants the innards of her crystals to be more vertically stringy, I don't think it gets in the way of that, as I covered the ease and reason for such conversion in the crunchy Trufflegrass.

Cool

Approved

It's pretty nontoxic, but you would need gut microbes to break it down.

I was intending on making microbes to slowly deal with the accumulated leaf litter remains.

Edited support and thermoregulation

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?:y
Art clear?:y
Gen number?:y
All limbs shown?:y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?:y
Realistic additions?:y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?:y
Creator?:Y??

Ancestor:
Listed?:y
What changes?:
External?:long underground rhizome, minimal above ground sprouts
Internal?:
Behavioral/Mental?: gradual rhizome growth followed bby death as a means of moving the organism toward nitrogen sources
Are Changes Realistic?: y
New Genus Needed?: y, very different growth habit

Habitat:
Type?:1
Flavor?:3
Connected?: y
Wildcard?:

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Within range?:y
Exception?:

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: y technically
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Transition Rule?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: gains detritivore, which sure other purple flora done it.

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?: N/A
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y, elaborated
Other?:

Reproduction: FULLY ASEXUAL
Same as Ancestor?: Yes, actually.
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Description:
Length?: Very Short
Capitalized correctly?: Y
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Split I assume? Ought to be specified I guess.
Other?:

Opinion: Pending because split needs to be specified I think. Or if it replaces all ancestors in its range, which is unlikely.

It's also fully asexual, I think it's a good idea to just add in that spores may be both asexual and sexual, with sexual ones just fertilizing other spores either in the quills or whatever.

How does multiple creators work when inputting to the wiki, like is there preference for a single creator and note of a second or are both listed outright.

Cool

Approved

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?:y
Art clear?:y
Gen number?:y, though without an "A" but that doesn't really matter does it.
All limbs shown?: y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: y (though the endoskeleton does make it deceptively different looking)
Realistic additions?: y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: y
Creator?:y

Ancestor:
Listed?:y
What changes?:
External?: distinct body form between adult and budded juvenile, adults have tiny strands of extended surface for sensing windy conditions.
Internal?: rods of elastin protein or formed in budding zones to provide a scaffold for budded juveniles
Behavioral/Mental?: adults form silk-like meshes in trees for capturing food in the air, juveniles have a more restricted body form due to an endoskeleton that allows them to have a more rigid parachuting form during high winds.
Are Changes Realistic?: the two biggest changes are really the formation of a protein dense rod in budding zones, having protein thickened extracellular matrix isn't unheard of, and the silken nest form of the adult which is actually the more curious adaptation.
These live in high humidity biomes, but if they were to find themselves in a drier situation they would die rather quickly due to their very high surface area.

I will say these changes are realistic.
New Genus Needed?: Y, endoskeleton

Habitat:
Type?:2
Flavor?:3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?:

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Within range?: y
Exception?:

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y, increase in protein between cells in budding areas to form rods.
Other?:

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Transition Rule?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y, specification of omnivore and detritivore rhater than biomass

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y, elaborated
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:y elaborated
Other?:

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y, the colonial form is more similar to the ancestral form, with addition of conjugation for including a sexual form of reproduction into this otherwise asexual lineage
Other?:

Description:
Length?: good
Capitalized correctly?: Y, capitals at least.
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Split
Other?:

"The Arboreal Ooze (aka The Flying Ooze) split from its ancestor and now lives in trees

The Arboreal Ooze makes it home as a net stretching between branches of a tree. Here it eats anything that flies into its sticky trap lured in by its aroma."

These two lines could probably be put together, there is also a period missing from the first sentence, and "its" should be in the second sentence rather than "it".




" If it climbs a tree that already has an Arboreal Ooze, the larger organism assimilates the smaller one. Here the baby Arboreal Ooze will consume the rod and begin growing bigger, stretching itself between branches until it matures."

I suggest switching the order of these two sentences so that when reading the larger paragraph it plays out better.




"Here the baby Arboreal Ooze will consume the rod and begin growing bigger, stretching itself between branches until it matures. "

I suggest explaining in this sentence that after absorbing the endoskeleton the ooze, if having landed on the ground, will seek out a tree or high spot to begin maturing.



"The chamber rips open during a strong wind, and the multitude of infant Arboreal Oozes pour out and catch the wind."

I would consider stating that the chamber is allowed to rip open, otherwise it sounds like happenstance and negates the point of the sensory hairs.



"The infant oozes readily exchange genetic material with other Arboreal Oozes in a process called conjugation."

I would add

"The infant oozes readily exchange genetic material between cells with other Arboreal Oozes in a process called conjugation."

As this is a minimal edit but also elaborates that it is a general exchange between all the cells of the two oozes rather than specific gametes.









Opinion: Pending, some punctuation

After that it will be approved.

edit: approved

Other than the sexual bit does this have anything else WIP about it?

There's a lot of ambiguity in the description versus the image at this point.

Does the Ooze maintain this triangular shape throughout its existence?

Does the endoskeleton exist throughout the life of this ooze? Or does it only occur at a certain point in its life?

"When it first separates from its parent organism, the Flying Ooze will move along the ground picking up whatever it can find along the way.*
What shape does the brand new ooze have? How does it move around? And what is it picking things up off the ground for?

The hair/barbs that now cover the surface of this ooze ought to be described more, like what they are made of, I do suggest also covering what the surface of the Ooze is like now since it's capable of supporting these barbs.
Given that in ooze is still a collection of individual cells, and not just a single big cell like with more common slime molds on earth, then it should be a little bit easier to describe the differentiation of certain cells in certain parts of the collective.

Their method of existing in the trees is described somewhat, it says that they will be stretching between branches. So when stretching between branches do they maintain this three-prong body shape? And do these prongs stretch beyond what their endoskeleton typically is able to withstand? And also considering their new surface that is covered in barbs does this also limit their ability of stretching?
Or is it rather that because they have inelastic endoskeleton then when they stretch between branches it is only to the extent that this elastic endoskeleton allows? I would imagine that any kind of surface that they now have would be able to allow for that form stretch.

Please explain more about the process of parachuting with the inclusion of their endoskeleton.

And also please explain the development of their endoskeleton a bit more. I'm not sure how other people view this sort of thing, but you can have a gradient of development in the extracellular space from the core of one of its arms out to the edge and the placement of cells determining how the contribute to the extracellular matrix.

Also please provide a sexual method of reproduction for this species. And also explain whether or not these uses are derived from a single cell, as animals on Earth and plants on Earth are, or if they are derived from a conglomeration or a collection of genetically distinct cells such as a slime mold would be.

cool

approved

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?:y
Art clear?:y
Gen number?:y
All limbs shown?:y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?:y
Realistic additions?:y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?:y
Creator?:y

Ancestor:
Listed?:y
What changes?:
External?: robust arms,
Internal?: suction cup tongue
Behavioral/Mental?: hiding spot engineer, skin pattern control for hiding, mating display
Are Changes Realistic?: y
New Genus Needed?: y, hyoid bone development

Habitat: we combining coasts and mangals still?
Type?: 3
Flavor?:1
Connected?: y
Wildcard?:

Size:
Same as Ancestor?:n
Within range?:y
Exception?:

Support:
Same as Ancestor?:n
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y elaborated
Other?:

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Transition Rule?:
Reasonable changes (if any)?:

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Description:
Length?: good
Capitalized correctly?: y??
Replace/Split from ancestor?: split
Other?:

Opinion: Approved

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?:y
Art clear?:y
Gen number?:y
All limbs shown?:y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?:y
Realistic additions?:y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?:y
Creator?:N? TheBigDeepC? Is this right?

Ancestor:
Listed?:y
What changes?:
External?: darker skin, more slender? neck.
Internal?:
Behavioral/Mental?: lines burrows with flora for insulation
Are Changes Realistic?:y
New Genus Needed?: y, neck

Habitat:
Type?:3
Flavor?:3
Connected?: y
Wildcard?:

Size:
Same as Ancestor?:n
Within range?:y
Exception?:

Support:
Same as Ancestor?:n
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:y elaborated
Other?:

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Transition Rule?:
Reasonable changes (if any)?:

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Description:
Length?: okay
Capitalized correctly?: y??
Replace/Split from ancestor?: split??
Other?:

Opinion: Pending, creator listing

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?:y
Art clear?:y
Gen number?:y
All limbs shown?:y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?:y
Realistic additions?:y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?:y
Creator?:y

Ancestor:
Listed?:y
What changes?:
External?: bigger, more mandible barb
Internal?:LONG LIFE
Behavioral/Mental?: fewer eggs
Are Changes Realistic?: y
New Genus Needed?: n

Habitat:
Type?:3
Flavor?:3
Connected?:y
Wildcard?:

Size:
Same as Ancestor?:n
Within range?:y
Exception?:

Support: CLAIMS SUPPORT ARE ITS LUNGS
Same as Ancestor?: N
Does It Fit Habitat?: N????
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N??????????
Other?: SOME KIND OF BALLOON CREATURE

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Transition Rule?:
Reasonable changes (if any)?:

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Description:
Length?: okay
Capitalized correctly?: Y???
Replace/Split from ancestor?: split
Other?:

Opinion: NOW approved

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?:y
Art clear?:y
Gen number?:y
All limbs shown?:y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?:y
Realistic additions?:y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?:y
Creator?:y

Ancestor:
Listed?:y
What changes?:
External?: greater sexual dimorphic displays, sharper mouth,
Internal?: egg retaining
Behavioral/Mental?: egg retaining
Are Changes Realistic?:y
New Genus Needed?: y egg retention

Habitat:
Type?:3
Flavor?:3
Connected?: y
Wildcard?:

Size:
Same as Ancestor?:n
Within range?:y
Exception?:

Support:
Same as Ancestor?:n
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: elaborated
Other?:

Diet: LARVAL DIET DELISTED
Same as Ancestor?:y
Transition Rule?:
Reasonable changes (if any)?:

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?:n
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: noe mesotherm
Other?:

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?:n
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:y, now ovivaparousfa
Other?:

Description:
Length?: good
Capitalized correctly?: y????
Replace/Split from ancestor?:split
Other?:

Opinion: Approved

Keep in mind mesoglea is kind of like gelatin in it's malleability. It can break, and will significantly change how an ooze moves.

APPROVED