Mni said it can be approved with the edit, so I'm gonna just remove the tundra myself and message the user saying what happened. Approved now based on Hethr's assessment.
I suppose fusing bones is good for holding more weight anyway. @TheBigDeepCheatsy does it look all good to you now?
| QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 28 2023, 03:26 PM) | ||
I have, but I still don't really want to jump to conclusions on what the structure of the shell is. So I was actually thinking about contacting rhodix and contacting him about this |
Just leave it blank for now. I remember how slow rhodix can be to reply and we can't leave it pending for ages.
Please fix the grammatical issues I listed, then I'll do the approval checklist.
Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: y
Art clear?: y
Gen number?: y
All limbs shown?: y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: y
Realistic additions?: y
Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: y
Creator?: y
Ancestor:
Listed?: y
What changes?:
New Genus Needed?: already done
Habitat:
Type?: 2/3 (polar and subpolar)
Flavor?: 1/3 (woodland)
Connected?: y
Wildcard?: n/a
Size:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Within range?: y (2x)
Exception?: n/a
Support:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: n/a
Other?:
Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Transition Rule?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y
Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: n/a
Does It Fit Habitat?: n/a
Reasonable changes (if any)?: n/a
Other?:
Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: n/a
Other?:
Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y (pits instead of burrows)
Other?:
Description:
Length?: y
Capitalized correctly?: y
Replace/Split from ancestor?: split
Other?:
Status: Approved
Art:
Art Present?: y
Art clear?: y
Gen number?: y
All limbs shown?: y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: y
Realistic additions?: y
Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: y
Creator?: y
Ancestor:
Listed?: y
What changes?:
- External?: Bigger, more brown and reddish color now, more robust limbs,
- Internal?: Reinforced skull, bigger gut
- Behavioral/Mental?: Knocking down trees to feed, use of gastroliths, solitary
New Genus Needed?: already done
Habitat:
Type?: 2/3 (polar and subpolar)
Flavor?: 1/3 (woodland)
Connected?: y
Wildcard?: n/a
Size:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Within range?: y (2x)
Exception?: n/a
Support:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: n/a
Other?:
Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Transition Rule?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y
Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: n/a
Does It Fit Habitat?: n/a
Reasonable changes (if any)?: n/a
Other?:
Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: n/a
Other?:
Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y (pits instead of burrows)
Other?:
Description:
Length?: y
Capitalized correctly?: y
Replace/Split from ancestor?: split
Other?:
Status: Approved
also grammar check ig
"helping to anchor it in the sediment and thus make it harder" make should be making
"the plates being made of the same material as their shell" its not their
"hopefully snatching it and piercing its hide with their retractable fangs" its not their
"they will mature in a small version" into not in
"helping to anchor it in the sediment and thus make it harder" make should be making
"the plates being made of the same material as their shell" its not their
"hopefully snatching it and piercing its hide with their retractable fangs" its not their
"they will mature in a small version" into not in
Guess I can do the standard grammar check instead...
"low growing" should be hyphenated as "low-growing" in all places that it appears
"the Redplate Pasakerd actually prefers" the 'actually' is unnecessary
"A heavily reinforced skull with wide crests help" help should be helps, as it's the singular skull that helps
"since their diet of trees does not really allow for multiple individuals feeding together" the 'really' is unnecessary
"The powerful jaw and large tusks can also leave a nasty bite to anything that they consider a threat or competition" 'bite on' rather than 'bite to'
"knocking down and devouring of trees means forests are opened up which" comma after 'up'
"Double-Lipped Sauceback find themselves being squeezed out and" comma after 'out'
"the Redplate Pasakerd can’t really dig out burrows anymore" 'really' is unnecessary
"the diet of the yearlings is actually more like their ancestors" 'actually' is unnecessary
After that, it looks all good to me
"low growing" should be hyphenated as "low-growing" in all places that it appears
"the Redplate Pasakerd actually prefers" the 'actually' is unnecessary
"A heavily reinforced skull with wide crests help" help should be helps, as it's the singular skull that helps
"since their diet of trees does not really allow for multiple individuals feeding together" the 'really' is unnecessary
"The powerful jaw and large tusks can also leave a nasty bite to anything that they consider a threat or competition" 'bite on' rather than 'bite to'
"knocking down and devouring of trees means forests are opened up which" comma after 'up'
"Double-Lipped Sauceback find themselves being squeezed out and" comma after 'out'
"the Redplate Pasakerd can’t really dig out burrows anymore" 'really' is unnecessary
"the diet of the yearlings is actually more like their ancestors" 'actually' is unnecessary
After that, it looks all good to me
Does anyone else have comments about this? I think it looks good but I want to check before I do the approval checklist.
@colddigger @Oofle since you were the ones commenting this time around
Also @Coolsteph I noticed you didn't do your standard look-over here, any chance you could do that?
@colddigger @Oofle since you were the ones commenting this time around
Also @Coolsteph I noticed you didn't do your standard look-over here, any chance you could do that?
How To Kill Saucebacks
Some Sagan 4 organisms are a little bit different from the animals we're familiar with on Earth--all their body parts are in different places, and in some cases basic strategies like strangulation don't seem to work at all. This can make creating carnivores and armored species difficult, as it's unclear what to attack or defend, respectively. So today, I will list various ways to kill saucebacks.
Taking a Look at Sauceback Anatomy
Saucebacks are a great example of a group of organisms that many normal strategies won't work on. You could still probably make them bleed out, sure, but there's no windpipe to crush, the brain is well-protected, and with the brain's odd position there's probably not an easy-to-access jugular equivalent to bite into. But there are still ways to kill them.
Faster
The fastest way to kill a sauceback is to destroy the brain. This can be done with a powerful strike from above, either smashing it directly, or concussing it so badly that it turns into mush. The ascendophrey uses this strategy, stomping the brains of other flying saucebacks from above. But while this is fast, it is not very easy, as it requires getting directly above the sauceback and using a lot of force; the ascendophrey is able to accomplish it because its prey can fly, so it won't hit the ground and shatter its legs immediately afterwards.
A sauceback is immediately doomed and dies of asphyxiation when the base of its tail is broken. Breaking one of the first 4 caudal vertebrae will paralyze some or all of the lungs, thus causing it to suffocate. Predators can aim a bone-crushing bite to the base of the tail to accomplish this. If the attack is aimed too far along the tail, however, not all the lungs will be affected and the sauceback can escape and heal--after kicking its attacker to death, of course.
Slower
A sauceback can be disemboweled by slicing or tearing its chest, as the digestive system is in the font. This requires getting through the gastralia, however. This does not work on flying saucebacks, as their keel protects the chest.
Cruel
A sauceback with a broken leg cannot walk, and will likely starve to death. This is because saucebacks are obligate bipeds, and it is true of flightless birds such as ostriches as well. However, a social sauceback can survive such an injury if it has a pack to care for it.
A sauceback with a broken neck cannot see or move its mouth and therefore cannot feed itself, and will starve. In some cases a pack might still be able to take care of it, but without the ability to swallow on its own, it will still struggle to eat.
A powerful strike to the chest can rupture a sauceback's intestines. If it does not die of internal bleeding, infection from its own gut microbes will leave a sauceback to die a slow and painful death.
Non-Fatal
In the case of defense, an organism might just want to stop a sauceback that's attacking them rather than spend time and energy killing it.
Suddenly yanking the tail can knock the wind out of a sauceback. This is because the lungs are contained in the tail. This can be compared to punching someone in the chest or throat.
Striking a sauceback on the "sauce" or right above the legs can stun it. This is because this is where the brain is, similar to knocking someone on the head.
Some Sagan 4 organisms are a little bit different from the animals we're familiar with on Earth--all their body parts are in different places, and in some cases basic strategies like strangulation don't seem to work at all. This can make creating carnivores and armored species difficult, as it's unclear what to attack or defend, respectively. So today, I will list various ways to kill saucebacks.
Taking a Look at Sauceback Anatomy
Saucebacks are a great example of a group of organisms that many normal strategies won't work on. You could still probably make them bleed out, sure, but there's no windpipe to crush, the brain is well-protected, and with the brain's odd position there's probably not an easy-to-access jugular equivalent to bite into. But there are still ways to kill them.
Faster
The fastest way to kill a sauceback is to destroy the brain. This can be done with a powerful strike from above, either smashing it directly, or concussing it so badly that it turns into mush. The ascendophrey uses this strategy, stomping the brains of other flying saucebacks from above. But while this is fast, it is not very easy, as it requires getting directly above the sauceback and using a lot of force; the ascendophrey is able to accomplish it because its prey can fly, so it won't hit the ground and shatter its legs immediately afterwards.
A sauceback is immediately doomed and dies of asphyxiation when the base of its tail is broken. Breaking one of the first 4 caudal vertebrae will paralyze some or all of the lungs, thus causing it to suffocate. Predators can aim a bone-crushing bite to the base of the tail to accomplish this. If the attack is aimed too far along the tail, however, not all the lungs will be affected and the sauceback can escape and heal--after kicking its attacker to death, of course.
Slower
A sauceback can be disemboweled by slicing or tearing its chest, as the digestive system is in the font. This requires getting through the gastralia, however. This does not work on flying saucebacks, as their keel protects the chest.
Cruel
A sauceback with a broken leg cannot walk, and will likely starve to death. This is because saucebacks are obligate bipeds, and it is true of flightless birds such as ostriches as well. However, a social sauceback can survive such an injury if it has a pack to care for it.
A sauceback with a broken neck cannot see or move its mouth and therefore cannot feed itself, and will starve. In some cases a pack might still be able to take care of it, but without the ability to swallow on its own, it will still struggle to eat.
A powerful strike to the chest can rupture a sauceback's intestines. If it does not die of internal bleeding, infection from its own gut microbes will leave a sauceback to die a slow and painful death.
Non-Fatal
In the case of defense, an organism might just want to stop a sauceback that's attacking them rather than spend time and energy killing it.
Suddenly yanking the tail can knock the wind out of a sauceback. This is because the lungs are contained in the tail. This can be compared to punching someone in the chest or throat.
Striking a sauceback on the "sauce" or right above the legs can stun it. This is because this is where the brain is, similar to knocking someone on the head.
Very well. Though, ideally the people reviewing species should know enough about plents to catch it if someone accidentally turns this into a gyrosprinter.
@mayith, I know you mentioned adding more after rendering being difficult; can you still add the other two legs on a layer beneath the rest, though?
@mayith, I know you mentioned adding more after rendering being difficult; can you still add the other two legs on a layer beneath the rest, though?
Side views with just one leg from each pair visible like this aren't technically disallowed. They're clearly bilateral.
Support would actually be Endoskeleton (Jointed Wood)
Support would actually be Endoskeleton (Jointed Wood)
Another art completed early, I was actually inspired to draw this one while introducing one of the newcomers to flunejaws!
Sheather described it as "one of the most generic aliens ive ever seen ngl" which is not wrong I suppose; I think that the terran thing with extra eyes eating the actual aliens is funny though. If this were a movie, the crazy aliens would be eating the earthlike stuff.
Sheather described it as "one of the most generic aliens ive ever seen ngl" which is not wrong I suppose; I think that the terran thing with extra eyes eating the actual aliens is funny though. If this were a movie, the crazy aliens would be eating the earthlike stuff.
" Because of its oil rich diet, its feathers are waterproof."
Aren't oils that animals use for waterproofing usually produced by their own glands?
Aren't oils that animals use for waterproofing usually produced by their own glands?
You should add links to some of the groups mentioned
I think simple shapes with small parts attached may be good to list too
I think simple shapes with small parts attached may be good to list too
Evo didn't reply, but the more I think on this the less sure I am that the coracoid thing can really work. The flapping muscles only pull on the femur - how is this flapping from the knee?
Fortunately, changing it wouldn't affect the art and the pouch can be explained another way.
Fortunately, changing it wouldn't affect the art and the pouch can be explained another way.
@KXDino8 as I said before, this is a really good first submission! I do have a couple comments though:
- The ears are missing - they're the circular things above the shoulders on the ancestor
- The tail nostril is missing - the ancestor's tail is like that because its tail opens like a flower to breathe
- The vestigial leaves on the side are missing, but those could probably be lost since they're vestigial anyway
(psst, @Coolsteph, new member submission!)
- The ears are missing - they're the circular things above the shoulders on the ancestor
- The tail nostril is missing - the ancestor's tail is like that because its tail opens like a flower to breathe
- The vestigial leaves on the side are missing, but those could probably be lost since they're vestigial anyway
(psst, @Coolsteph, new member submission!)
Hello, this is a good start for your first submission! However, this is the wrong place to submit--please repost your submission to this thread so we can keep all newcomers' first entries in one place: http://sagan4.jcink.net/index.php?showtopic=4
This might be possible to work into a wiki page that introduces random examples of each, like the current full introductions
@Evolutionincarnate how do you feel about the coracoid thing in this one? (see op)
For the first time since we moved, Sagan 4 now has affiliates! These are established communities which share some common ground/interests with Sagan 4's community and have agreed to mutual affiliation to promote one another. If any of these sound interesting to you, feel free to click the link(s) to check them out!
If you want your community to become an affiliate of Sagan 4, feel free to message me or Mnidjm about it so it can be discussed. Please note however that we're only accepting affiliation with established communities at this time.
The Spore Wiki is a wiki dedicated to Spore which has an active Spore fanfiction and roleplay community, which our own founder, Hydromancerx, helped build the foundation of. Sagan 4 actually used to be part of it, so we have some shared history!
Similar to Sagan 4, the Spore Wiki Fiction Universe is also a collaborative worldbuilding project, but with more focus on space stage and roleplay. If that interests you or if you want to read more, follow the links below...
Wiki: https://spore.fandom.com/wiki/SporeWiki
Discord: https://discord.gg/mAKyXYfhyB
Be An Alien: Renewal is a well-made Roblox game in which, as the name implies, you get to roleplay as an alien creature. Much like Sagan 4, it has a focus on creativity, but instead of making the aliens yourself, you get to build lore for the pre-made alien species through roleplay! Much like Sagan 4, there's also a part of the BAA:R community that is dedicated to elaborating on the worldbuilding, and you're even allowed to make suggestions for additions to the game itself.
Fun fact: Though BAA:R is owned by CaZsm, it was originally inspired by an even older Roblox game made by our own Giant Blue Anteater!
Game link: https://www.roblox.com/games/463915360/Be-an-Alien-Renewal
Discord: http://discord.gg/MCRnDYt
If you want your community to become an affiliate of Sagan 4, feel free to message me or Mnidjm about it so it can be discussed. Please note however that we're only accepting affiliation with established communities at this time.
The Spore Wiki is a wiki dedicated to Spore which has an active Spore fanfiction and roleplay community, which our own founder, Hydromancerx, helped build the foundation of. Sagan 4 actually used to be part of it, so we have some shared history!
Similar to Sagan 4, the Spore Wiki Fiction Universe is also a collaborative worldbuilding project, but with more focus on space stage and roleplay. If that interests you or if you want to read more, follow the links below...
Wiki: https://spore.fandom.com/wiki/SporeWiki
Discord: https://discord.gg/mAKyXYfhyB
Be An Alien: Renewal is a well-made Roblox game in which, as the name implies, you get to roleplay as an alien creature. Much like Sagan 4, it has a focus on creativity, but instead of making the aliens yourself, you get to build lore for the pre-made alien species through roleplay! Much like Sagan 4, there's also a part of the BAA:R community that is dedicated to elaborating on the worldbuilding, and you're even allowed to make suggestions for additions to the game itself.
Fun fact: Though BAA:R is owned by CaZsm, it was originally inspired by an even older Roblox game made by our own Giant Blue Anteater!
Game link: https://www.roblox.com/games/463915360/Be-an-Alien-Renewal
Discord: http://discord.gg/MCRnDYt
they were people just passively observing me making species, maybe they thought it was like pokemon?
I had the idea that batbee descendants could eventually lose the wing membrane completely and become like spiders! Or keep it and be flying spiders. Or flyders.
I had the idea that batbee descendants could eventually lose the wing membrane completely and become like spiders! Or keep it and be flying spiders. Or flyders.
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