While waiting for next gen, I've drawn even more species waiting to be written up and submitted...




People kept mistaking the generation number for an ID number and more than one person built up an idea in their head that everything on Sagan 4 is nameless, so I've started putting the name in the image too now. Also, breaking my rule of never using top-down views because there's not much else to see on batbee, lol (the main problem with top-down is body parts being obscured, which doesn't apply here)

The batbee's wing membranes are translucent!

I'm not completely certain I'd describe the support as an exoskeleton as opposed to a shell personally, but I suppose that's just semantics.

Seconded approval.

Yeah I agree all that information about when and how they eat things is not needed. It'll also make it really hard to add this to the bot when I get to this gen because I have to input ALL of those individually instead of just copy-pasting its entire diet.

@colddigger, @HethrJarrod, and @Coolsteph, is this to your liking now?

We're on the last page of submissions now. You have one week remaining to finish this wip. @MNIDJM

@Oofle, have you seen above comments?

I think it might be acceptable to make an exception to our standard "no editing people's submissions for them" thing this one time simply because the only problem is one biome that does not matter to the whole on the entry. @MNIDJM, what do you think?

@colddigger

I second this approval.

I went ahead and just removed week 26 from the title since obviously we're just...gonna keep using the same thread.

This is meant for illustrations representative of specific events that are not illustrated, for use on pages detailing said events, rather than just general dioramas. @colddigger @Jarlaxle

I've updated the title and first post to make this more general and to set it apart more from just fanart.

I do like to think on occasion about what might have happened if the falsequill sauceback diversified more than it did. The powerful tail strike could be modified to allow it to launch its entire body from the soil to take down large prey, which might have then paved the way for it to become a tripod.



Could've become like the regular reptile to lie between the murkworms' turtle and the feathered saucebacks' dinosaur. I've mostly imagined forms comparable to monitor lizards, but it's fun thinking about potential "iguana" and "gecko" saucebacks too.

I think Nobomaton was assumed to have teeth... The subject of teeth in Ketters is probably something to investigate by asking creators

The thumbnail issues are due to a temporary bug with cargo tables, they will stop happening in a few hours. Don't touch them, it'll fix itself. @Coolsteph

OviFan and Nergali are also helping write, plenty of groups are compared to arthropods; you'll need to be more specific

Overview page creation and improvement is encouraged in general.

I figured I should make a note of this forum-side - I've been working on making it where the wiki presents random extant species at every logical opportunity, such as on general pages and even on the front page, in an effort to make it easier for newcomers to find potential starting points. Mostly because browsing the ecosystem page or the "extant" category is kinda brain-melting even for me.

I've also been working on introductions to extant groups, which each also show random representatives. The fauna one is the most complete: https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Intro...to_Extant_Fauna

Ovifan has pitched in so far and I'd appreciate help from others as well, since I'm not very familiar with all the groups.

I know a lot of groups have gotten some close examination due to the work of the taxonomy team - does anyone have suggestions for prompts for other groups not represented in the list so far?

I'm also gonna go ahead and edit the existing prompts to be less specific / more flexible. X in Y during Z instead of X doing Y during Z.

I was honestly imagining a running jump being like... skip for a bit of air time to get both feet into the landing position at once, then land and launch like a kangaroo. Or going from asymmetrical galloping to a hop to the same end result.

The air sacs are meant to be helping keep the air flowing in as previously-inhaled air is pushed along the system.

Excuse the crude animation, I used a normal 2d pivot animation tool. I don't see what's wrong with just...leaping into the air. The way all digitigrade bipeds do in real life.

Bipedal pole vaulting is just a matter of keeping one's center of gravity over the feet, as any bipedal animal would do when crouching down before jumping/leaping, as that is what it is--a leap. It may not be able to accomplish quite as strong a leap depending on specifics, but it should still get the job done.

Though, I'm not even sure we should be calling it pole vaulting. I have never used that term in descriptions. I'd liken it more to a jerboa leaping, then flapping its legs instead of landing. The whole method of levering off the ground is more like that than what pterosaurs do.

No, but it gives you enough of an idea of how it works that whether it does so shouldn't be in question.

The intestine-like descriptor is wrong because it implies the internal structure looks like an intestine. The structure is actually like, well, a lung, just segmented, lobed with air sacs like a bird, and with separate intake and outtake.

The ophrey respiration thing was just a matter of Colddigger not reading the description and musing an incorrect elaboration. It's clearly described in the text.

Biats do have tongues, all saucebacks do. It's how they chirp.

Wait, did you genuinely think biats only have flight feathers on the wing toe?

Has anyone tried just...

@Primalpikachu see above

That's not the problem. The problem is that this is the microbial equivalent to putting all arboreal insects, including tree-dwelling beetles, stick bugs, katydids, and leafcutter ants, in a single genus group.