QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Jan 4 2022, 04:32 AM)

I found some typos. "ancestors skin" Ancestors' skin. "To insure" To ensure.

Fixed

Upon further review this may be too many species spread, so it has been removed until the point is settled

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: Y
Art clear?: Y
Gen number?: Y
All limbs shown?: Y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: Y
Realistic additions?: Y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: Y
Creator?: Y

Ancestor:
Listed?: Y
What changes?:

• External?: Darkened coloration
• Internal?: Thermal regulation
• Behavioral/Mental?:

Are Changes Realistic?: Y
New Genus Needed?: N

Habitat:
Type?: 2/2
Flavor?: 3/3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?: NA

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Within range?: Y
Exception?: NA

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?: Y

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Transition Rule?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?: Y

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: NA
Other?: NA

Description:
Length?: Good
Capitalized correctly?: Y
Replace/Split from ancestor?: No (unlisted)
Other?: Too many species are spread, please whittle this down

Opinion: Pending(make the necessary changes)

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: Y
Art clear?: Y
Gen number?: Y
All limbs shown?: Y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: Y
Realistic additions?: Y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: Y
Creator?: Y

Ancestor:
Listed?: Y
What changes?:

• External?:
• Internal?:
• Behavioral/Mental?:

Are Changes Realistic?: Y
New Genus Needed?: (If yes, list why)

Habitat:
Type?: 1/2
Flavor?: 2/3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?: NA

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Within range?: Y
Exception?: NA

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?: Y

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: Y (Change Herbivore to Sapivore)
Transition Rule?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?: Y

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: NA
Other?: NA

Description:
Length?:Good
Capitalized correctly?: N
Replace/Split from ancestor?: No (unlisted)
Other?: NA

Opinion: Pending(Make corrections)

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: Y
Art clear?: Y
Gen number?: Y
All limbs shown?: Y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: Y
Realistic additions?: Y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: Y
Creator?: Y

Ancestor:
Listed?: Y
What changes?:

• External?: Spikes shrink,
• Internal?: Sexual reproduction
• Behavioral/Mental?: NA

Are Changes Realistic?: Y
New Genus Needed?: Y (Done)

Habitat:
Type?: 1/2
Flavor?: 2/3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?: NA

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Within range?: Y
Exception?: NA

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?: Y

Diet: UNLISTED (corrected)
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Transition Rule?: NA
Reasonable changes (if any)?: NA

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?: Y

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y (Asexual -> Sexual)
Other?: NA

Description:
Length?: Good
Capitalized correctly?: N
Replace/Split from ancestor?: No (unlisted)
Other?: NA

Opinion:Pending(corrections needed)

Made the required updates

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: Y
Art clear?: Y
Gen number?: Y
All limbs shown?: Y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: Y
Realistic additions?: Y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: Y
Creator?: Y

Ancestor:
Listed?: Y
What changes?:

• External?: Claws
• Internal?:
• Behavioral/Mental?:Aboreal

Are Changes Realistic?: Y
New Genus Needed?: N

Habitat:
Type?: 2/2
Flavor?: 2/3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?: N

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Within range?: Y
Exception?: N/A

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Transition Rule?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Description:
Length?: Good
Capitalized correctly?: Y
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Split
Other?: Species spread is realistic

Opinion: Approved

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Oct 1 2021, 12:51 PM)

Does this seem more realistic? I could use the crab-eating macaque as the closest intelligence match instead of a chimpanzee. --- For tools, uses only spars of wood. A long, sharpened one is used for hunting big things or repelling would-be competitors. Smaller ones with broader tips are used to uncover food in the sand or silt or to flip over stones. Other than sharpening or narrowing the tips using its teeth, it has little ability to modify tools and often takes them pre-made from local Shrogs. Does not herd Gentonnas or pull down Mangot fruit-leaves for them. It's often associated with them, and Gentonnas do not often fear them. It protects them only inadvertently: predators that would eat it are also threats to its young and have overlapping diets with it. Gentonna flesh is particularly consumed in the winter due to its fattiness, relative safety to obtain, and the fact their body condition worsens less rapidly than some other Fermisaurs. Reduction or removal of spur on braincase.

Seems fine

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Dec 25 2021, 03:10 PM)

QUOTE (colddigger @ Dec 24 2021, 11:58 PM) You could also I just let the mouth dry out, surface layer become dead, then shed when back to being active. Given Sagan 4's pathogens are rather underdeveloped compared to real life, this would actually be plausible.

For now. I am considering retconning some of this with the open Week 23 and 22 slots.

How much of this should be considered consistent for all Black flora? We have a lot left ambiguous for most of them so this should be very helpful,

I've made more progress on the description.

The image link appears dead on my end

Suggestion accepted

Any updates?

It is a bit small, but I think it works. Any other possible elaborations? Even it they are just a "like their ancestors..."?

Any further critiques?

Atavism Rules
An atavistic species cannot draw traits from any further back than 10 project Generations or its ancestor's ancestor, whichever is earlier, without extraordinary justification. Beyond this point, old traits are considered genetically lost and cannot be reactivated. This includes adding ancestral traits to unelaborated larvae.

Exception: Traits that are lost in one part of the body but not another related body part may be regained freely, as their presence is proof that their genes still exist intact. Examples: regaining foreclaws because it still had hindclaws, regaining teeth on the lower jaw because it still had some on the upper jaw

The Phantomuki has been revived

As a defense, when cut this thing will attempt to release a cloud of spores, so the shrog would be effectively coated in it the moment they chop if the Ramulbane is thick enough. Even if they don’t have the ammo, like Coolsteph said they’d be burned the moment they try to handle the wood

Ramulbane (Lutrasorectonum hedera)

Creator: MNIDJM
Ancestor: Eeyore Stalks (Negrosolis eeyorei)
Habitat: Ramul Temperate Woodland, Ramul Temperate Beach
Size: 50 cm Tall (Individual), 3 m Tall (Boosted height)
Support:
Diet: Photosynthesis
Respiration: Passive (Stoma)
Thermoregulation: Ectothermic
Reproduction: Asexual, Airborne "Twinkoid" Spores

The ramulbane replaced it's ancestor, having fully adapted to life on their new home of Ramul. They grow in thick "vines" on the every surface they can get purchase on, and like their ancestors have a high tolerance for shade, allowing them to grow well even in thicker forest areas. Beside their size, their more notable adaptation is that they have intensified their deterrent properties. Their cells contain a higher concentration of calcium oxalate, which when damaged either by a bite or when struck by a shrog tail, will cause a sharp burning sensation. The ramulbane spores are also thick with the substance, and if the time of year is right they will release a cloud of them on any attacker. This generally results in not only the victim being coated in the burning chemical, but they have a high likelihood of inhaling it, which can cause pulmonary and oral irritation and in some cases death by asphyxiation, though this is less common. This tends to work in the benefit of the flora, as victims struck by this will typically attempt to relieve the burning by aggressively rubbing against surfaces like rocks or other flora, giving the ramulbane spores a new place to implant. In the more uncommon cases where this is fatal, the ramulbane spores can use the corpse as nutrients. Organisms with more porous skin can be particularly negatively affected, such as local [[scooters]] and [[Uksapo|uktank]] species, with symptoms lasting for days to even weeks. As a result, the local populations of soft skinned species have learned to avoid thickets near their sporing seasons. Shrog species on the island have seen a dramatic drop in their ability to survive, as it can be difficult to find enough wood not currently hosting ramulbane, and many individuals end up trapped on the island and starve.

@Papainmanis Watch it, uncalled for aggression is not tolerated. This is your only warning.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Nov 24 2021, 06:32 AM)

In the words of one source on underground water ecosystems (though limited to just one state in the U.S.): "Available food [in karst aquifers, the variety most hospitable to multicellular life] is constantly recycled among the organisms, with only occasional additions from the outside. These underground ecosystems have a very low carrying capacity. They can only support a few individuals of any one species, and these individuals do not grow very large." For comparison, accordingly to Wikipedia, olms, one of the biggest exclusively aquatic-subterranean animals, are 20-30 cm long, with some specimens growing up to 40 cm. Ramul's water table seems to be smaller than Ramul itself, and, in any case, it does seem unlikely the caverns would be connected to each other, and, if so, to the extent a 90-cm-long organism could forage between them. The rules (as they presently exist) do say: - "Water Tables can connect to any water source on a continent", but whether something as big as 90 cm can fit through them to forage is still questionable. The rules also cross out "You cannot have air breathing species in the Water Table", oddly enough.

Still, the water tables under Ramul are at least 3.5x larger than the entire range of the Olms habitat, and we've decided one of the less than realistic elements of the project to keep is the extensively sized underground environments (Not quite to the level of the D&D Underdark, but def up there), so larger size is fine. Though if we don't already we should have a size limit imposed for underground organisms, something like no bigger than 1 meter

Thermoregulation should be Ectothermic, also the description could be longer

Alright then

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: Y
Art clear?: Y
Gen number?: Y
All limbs shown?: Y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: Y
Realistic additions?: Y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: Y
Creator?: Y

Ancestor:
Listed?: Y
What changes?:

• External?: Coloration, Sharp spines, Needles, Headshape
• Internal?:
• Behavioral/Mental?:

Are Changes Realistic?: Y
New Genus Needed?: Y

Habitat:
Type?: 2/2
Flavor?: 3/3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?: N

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Within range?: Y
Exception?: N/A

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?: N/A

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Transition Rule?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Description:
Length?: Y
Capitalized correctly?: N
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Split
Other?: N/A

Status: Approved