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QUOTE (colddigger @ Nov 15 2022, 08:25 PM)

Oh! Okay, so a mesoglea lump in this is very interesting, and I wonder just how malleable one could be for this. The shape of it ought to be described.

The shape is roughly circular/amorphous
Focused around the core of the organism.

Edit: Felt like with mesoglea, I should reduce the size of the adult to be more reasonable (changed it from 1m to .5m )

This post has been edited by HethrJarrod: Nov 16 2022, 05:55 AM

Keep in mind mesoglea is kind of like gelatin in it's malleability. It can break, and will significantly change how an ooze moves.

Through discussion with some other people, fixed the support (again)
& Produced better artwork for organism.

The new art makes it look extremely organized, which might be too large a jump. Is that a cross section or an external view?

Is "endoskeleton" the right word for a colonial organism?

This might be helpful:
http://archive.bio.ed.ac.uk/jdeacon/microbes/slime.htm
"Figure A shows a colony of Physarum polycephalum, one of the few slime moulds that can be grown easily on agar media. The colony consists of a multinucleate network of protoplasm, termed the plasmodium. There is no wall, only a plasma membrane and a gelatinous sheath around this. Once the plasmodium has grown to fill the agar plate, it will migrate and start to move out of the dish or ( accumulate all the protoplasm in a localised zone, leaving only the gelatinous sheath over the rest of the agar surface. The sheath is known to contain actin, which might be involved in migration. Under a microscope, the tubes (veins) that make up the plasmodium are seen to have gel-like protoplasm towards the outside, and rapidly streaming sol-like protoplasm in the centre. The rate of protoplasmic streaming can be extremely fast - over 1 mm per second - and it is rhythmic because its direction reverses every few seconds."

Incidentally, I'll still be busy for a while.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Nov 17 2022, 03:00 PM)

The new art makes it look extremely organized, which might be too large a jump. Is that a cross section or an external view?

It’s External. Fairly organized but simple structure.

There's a lot of ambiguity in the description versus the image at this point.

Does the Ooze maintain this triangular shape throughout its existence?

Does the endoskeleton exist throughout the life of this ooze? Or does it only occur at a certain point in its life?

"When it first separates from its parent organism, the Flying Ooze will move along the ground picking up whatever it can find along the way.*
What shape does the brand new ooze have? How does it move around? And what is it picking things up off the ground for?

The hair/barbs that now cover the surface of this ooze ought to be described more, like what they are made of, I do suggest also covering what the surface of the Ooze is like now since it's capable of supporting these barbs.
Given that in ooze is still a collection of individual cells, and not just a single big cell like with more common slime molds on earth, then it should be a little bit easier to describe the differentiation of certain cells in certain parts of the collective.

Their method of existing in the trees is described somewhat, it says that they will be stretching between branches. So when stretching between branches do they maintain this three-prong body shape? And do these prongs stretch beyond what their endoskeleton typically is able to withstand? And also considering their new surface that is covered in barbs does this also limit their ability of stretching?
Or is it rather that because they have inelastic endoskeleton then when they stretch between branches it is only to the extent that this elastic endoskeleton allows? I would imagine that any kind of surface that they now have would be able to allow for that form stretch.

Please explain more about the process of parachuting with the inclusion of their endoskeleton.

And also please explain the development of their endoskeleton a bit more. I'm not sure how other people view this sort of thing, but you can have a gradient of development in the extracellular space from the core of one of its arms out to the edge and the placement of cells determining how the contribute to the extracellular matrix.

Also please provide a sexual method of reproduction for this species. And also explain whether or not these uses are derived from a single cell, as animals on Earth and plants on Earth are, or if they are derived from a conglomeration or a collection of genetically distinct cells such as a slime mold would be.

Revision as per discussions I've had with colddigger

Added more detail for the Reproduction

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?:y
Art clear?:y
Gen number?:y, though without an "A" but that doesn't really matter does it.
All limbs shown?: y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: y (though the endoskeleton does make it deceptively different looking)
Realistic additions?: y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: y
Creator?:y

Ancestor:
Listed?:y
What changes?:
External?: distinct body form between adult and budded juvenile, adults have tiny strands of extended surface for sensing windy conditions.
Internal?: rods of elastin protein or formed in budding zones to provide a scaffold for budded juveniles
Behavioral/Mental?: adults form silk-like meshes in trees for capturing food in the air, juveniles have a more restricted body form due to an endoskeleton that allows them to have a more rigid parachuting form during high winds.
Are Changes Realistic?: the two biggest changes are really the formation of a protein dense rod in budding zones, having protein thickened extracellular matrix isn't unheard of, and the silken nest form of the adult which is actually the more curious adaptation.
These live in high humidity biomes, but if they were to find themselves in a drier situation they would die rather quickly due to their very high surface area.

I will say these changes are realistic.
New Genus Needed?: Y, endoskeleton

Habitat:
Type?:2
Flavor?:3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?:

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Within range?: y
Exception?:

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y, increase in protein between cells in budding areas to form rods.
Other?:

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Transition Rule?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y, specification of omnivore and detritivore rhater than biomass

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y, elaborated
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?:y
Does It Fit Habitat?:y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:y elaborated
Other?:

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y, the colonial form is more similar to the ancestral form, with addition of conjugation for including a sexual form of reproduction into this otherwise asexual lineage
Other?:

Description:
Length?: good
Capitalized correctly?: Y, capitals at least.
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Split
Other?:

"The Arboreal Ooze (aka The Flying Ooze) split from its ancestor and now lives in trees

The Arboreal Ooze makes it home as a net stretching between branches of a tree. Here it eats anything that flies into its sticky trap lured in by its aroma."

These two lines could probably be put together, there is also a period missing from the first sentence, and "its" should be in the second sentence rather than "it".




" If it climbs a tree that already has an Arboreal Ooze, the larger organism assimilates the smaller one. Here the baby Arboreal Ooze will consume the rod and begin growing bigger, stretching itself between branches until it matures."

I suggest switching the order of these two sentences so that when reading the larger paragraph it plays out better.




"Here the baby Arboreal Ooze will consume the rod and begin growing bigger, stretching itself between branches until it matures. "

I suggest explaining in this sentence that after absorbing the endoskeleton the ooze, if having landed on the ground, will seek out a tree or high spot to begin maturing.



"The chamber rips open during a strong wind, and the multitude of infant Arboreal Oozes pour out and catch the wind."

I would consider stating that the chamber is allowed to rip open, otherwise it sounds like happenstance and negates the point of the sensory hairs.



"The infant oozes readily exchange genetic material with other Arboreal Oozes in a process called conjugation."

I would add

"The infant oozes readily exchange genetic material between cells with other Arboreal Oozes in a process called conjugation."

As this is a minimal edit but also elaborates that it is a general exchange between all the cells of the two oozes rather than specific gametes.









Opinion: Pending, some punctuation

After that it will be approved.

edit: approved

This post has been edited by colddigger: Jan 15 2023, 11:32 PM

Made suggested changes.

Cool

Approved

I second this approval.