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The title in the template is “Beach Cheekhorn”, when that’s actually its ancestor.

@Hydromancerx did you see the above comment?

I still feel like the torso is way too compressed, it just looks like it has no room for guts at all...

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 05:32 PM)

I still feel like the torso is way too compressed, it just looks like it has no room for guts at all...

I mean, it's as compressed as a giraffe, proportionally speaking.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 05:32 PM)

I still feel like the torso is way too compressed, it just looks like it has no room for guts at all...

As Disgustedorite said, it's as compressed as a giraffe. The limited gut capacity was justified through my suggestion that it mainly eat highly digestible tissues, which was incorporated into the description. Technically speaking, most herbivores would eat highly digestible tissues like new shoots or leaves if they could, but this one just makes it explicit.

I was going to say "yeah, but it looks like its just nothing but a ribcage"

And then I looked up a giraffe skeleton


Turns out they also have pretty much just a ribcage for their entire torso. So I guess thats not a problem.

Though i did notice that this guy still only have three digits on each limb, rather than the four seen in their direct ancestor. Plus there has been no mention in the description that describes a digit being lost. I also see that the skull is not that deep, would that potentially limit their diet to the softer parts of flora since i imagine a less deep skull means less powerful jaw muscles and thus a weaker bite.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 04:17 PM)

Though i did notice that this guy still only have three digits on each limb, rather than the four seen in their direct ancestor. Plus there has been no mention in the description that describes a digit being lost. I also see that the skull is not that deep, would that potentially limit their diet to the softer parts of flora since i imagine a less deep skull means less powerful jaw muscles and thus a weaker bite.

I only count 3 the ancestor.

QUOTE (Hydromancerx @ Jan 30 2023, 09:03 PM)

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 04:17 PM) Though i did notice that this guy still only have three digits on each limb, rather than the four seen in their direct ancestor. Plus there has been no mention in the description that describes a digit being lost. I also see that the skull is not that deep, would that potentially limit their diet to the softer parts of flora since i imagine a less deep skull means less powerful jaw muscles and thus a weaker bite. I only count 3 the ancestor.

Here is the redraw of that species, which was discussed by 1g1 the whole way through. He himself said that it had 4 toes, just that they were hidden from view.

"They actually do have 4 toes, its just the angle wasn't the easiest to depict it"


This post has been edited by OviraptorFan: Jan 30 2023, 05:11 PM

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 04:11 PM)

I was going to say "yeah, but it looks like its just nothing but a ribcage" And then I looked up a giraffe skeleton Turns out they also have pretty much just a ribcage for their entire torso. So I guess thats not a problem.

It's more or less like a Gerenuk. Long limbs but the body is about the same as other antelope.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 05:10 PM)

"They actually do have 4 toes, its just the angle wasn't the easiest to depict it"

This is is a bad angle too.

QUOTE (Hydromancerx @ Jan 30 2023, 09:14 PM)

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 05:10 PM) "They actually do have 4 toes, its just the angle wasn't the easiest to depict it" This is is a bad angle too.

So your species does have 4 toes? they just aren't visible due to the angle?

That does sound like a good fix

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 05:19 PM)

QUOTE (Hydromancerx @ Jan 30 2023, 09:14 PM) QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 05:10 PM) "They actually do have 4 toes, its just the angle wasn't the easiest to depict it" This is is a bad angle too. So your species does have 4 toes? they just aren't visible due to the angle?

Sure.

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: Y
Art clear?: Y
Gen number?: Y
All limbs shown?: Y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: Y
Realistic additions?: Y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: Y
Creator?: Y

Ancestor:
Listed?: Y
What changes?:
* External?: Quill-mane is now smooth like scale mail; has clear hairs on some parts; narrower, longer skull and non-goat like pupils; minor changes in cheek-horns, tail, feet, and torso
* Internal?: None, unless implied reduced gut capacity and therefore torso size count, which is accounted for in its diet
* Behavioral/Mental?: Rubs berry juice on itself
Are Changes Realistic?: Y
New Genus Needed?: (If yes, list why) N

Habitat:
Type?: 2: Tropical, Subtropical
Flavor?: Tropical Beach, Subtropical Beach, Subtropical Mangal, Tropical Mangal
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?: N

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Within range?: Y
Exception?: N

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N
Other?: N/A

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: N
Transition Rule?: N/A
Reasonable changes (if any)?: The diet is broader than its ancestor’s and includes berries, but it’s still a herbivore which wouldn’t require notable specialized adaptations for its new diet.

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?: Y

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y
Other?: N/A

Description:
Length?: Good.
Capitalized correctly?: In paragraph 3, there are inconsistencies in capitalization.
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Split.
Other?: There’s some odd phrasing and typos that have not been corrected.

Opinion: Pending: There are multiple typos remaining: see the December 28 message on Page 2 and January 15 message on Page 3. The capitalization errors may be the most conspicuous and important. Were it not for the capitalization errors, the typos may have been slight enough to justify being corrected after the fact on the wiki.