Twomorsuses (Disgnathus spp.)
Ancestor: Cilios, Morsuses
Habitat: Global (Sagan4)
Size: 5 µm to 20 µm Long
Support: unknown
Diet: Detritivore, Consumer (smaller cells)
Respiration: unknown
Thermoregulation: Ectotherm
Reproduction: Binary Fission, Conjugation
The Twomoruses evolved when some Cilios and some Moruses hybridized. By sheer luck, it turned out to work out amazing for them. Soon they were taking over niches of both ancestors.
Like its ancestor, Twomoruses have needle-like protrusions, made from a hardened mucosal secretion and the cilia of the Cilios. Twomoruses are still able to use these as cilia to help it move around. The flagella of the Cilios have become two antenna-like objects, covered in mucosal barbs. The Twomoruses sweep these antennas around, catching debris and other cells, and dragging them toward its oral groove.
Like its ancestors, Twomoruses reproduce with binary fission, splitting into two identical clones of the parent. They can also occasionally partially fuse together and exchange genetic material via swapping micronuclei before separating.
While microbe hybrids are allowed by the letter of the rule, lots of things that would be rejected are. Can you answer how they hybridized? If not, I'm tempted to insta-reject.
| QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Apr 15 2023, 09:00 AM) |
| While microbe hybrids are allowed by the letter of the rule, lots of things that would be rejected are. Can you answer how they hybridized? If not, I'm tempted to insta-reject. |
Morsus and Cilios both reproduce with conjugation. And very possible that hybridization occurred in this step.
Morsus…”but they can also exchange genes by fusing together and then dividing”
Cilios- “They reproduce by binary fission, but in certain conditions, like overcrowding and environmental stress, they undergo a sexually reproductive process called conjugation. They line up with another ciliognathus and they fuse together. They then exchange genetic material. “
| QUOTE (HethrJarrod @ Apr 15 2023, 08:54 AM) | ||
Morsus and Cilios both reproduce with conjugation. And very possible that hybridization occurred in this step. Morsus…”but they can also exchange genes by fusing together and then dividing” Cilios- “They reproduce by binary fission, but in certain conditions, like overcrowding and environmental stress, they undergo a sexually reproductive process called conjugation. They line up with another ciliognathus and they fuse together. They then exchange genetic material. “ |
Cool. How did the zygote survive and perform meiosis successfully with all the genetic incompatibilities, incompatible chromosomes, and different chromosome counts between the parents?
| QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Apr 15 2023, 09:25 AM) | ||||
Cool. How did the zygote survive and perform meiosis successfully with all the genetic incompatibilities, incompatible chromosomes, and different chromosome counts between the parents? |
And assuming that the meiosis was successful, how do the daughter cells survive when they don't have a complete set of chromosomes from either parent? Remember, unicellular organisms, especially ones that reproduce this way, are haploid.
This seems like a case of horizontal Gene transfer between the two.
| QUOTE (HethrJarrod @ Apr 15 2023, 09:54 AM) |
| This seems like a case of horizontal Gene transfer between the two. |
Cool! How does it get through the nuclear membrane when we don't have any viruses, and how did so many genes get transferred into the right places that they produced this form?
@HethrJarrod I'm sorry but I'm rejecting this as it currently is. This is way too meta of an entry, as its sole purpose is to recreate a species that was purposely decanonized, and does so in a way that is unfortunately less plausible than the previous entry. Please refrain from making submissions that are an attempt to just correct out of game decisions, especially without permission.
| QUOTE (MNIDJM @ Apr 15 2023, 10:55 AM) |
| @HethrJarrod I'm sorry but I'm rejecting this as it currently is. This is way too meta of an entry, as its sole purpose is to recreate a species that was purposely decanonized, and does so in a way that is unfortunately less plausible than the previous entry. Please refrain from making submissions that are an attempt to just correct out of game decisions, especially without permission. |
I plan on continuing to work to make this entry work. Not because of the ancestors but the image of a spiny microscopic bug is cute.
| QUOTE (HethrJarrod @ Apr 15 2023, 10:37 AM) | ||
I plan on continuing to work to make this entry work. Not because of the ancestors but the image of a spiny microscopic bug is cute. |
Many species of mites are microscopic. Thrips and no-see-ums are nearly microscopic. There are microscopic and near-microscopic freshwater crustaceans, such as the spiny water flea. This suggests that this sort of look and small size are very biologically plausible. If you wanted something that looked like a "spiny microscopic bug", this is fairly easy to do. If you wanted a stubby, hairy "buggy" look, like a carpet beetle larva, some kind of ciliate-esque organism would be appropriate, perhaps from a Bruhlio (although I can't see the image now).
| QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Apr 15 2023, 05:15 PM) | ||||
Many species of mites are microscopic. Thrips and no-see-ums are nearly microscopic. There are microscopic and near-microscopic freshwater crustaceans, such as the spiny water flea. This suggests that this sort of look and small size are very biologically plausible. If you wanted something that looked like a "spiny microscopic bug", this is fairly easy to do. If you wanted a stubby, hairy "buggy" look, like a carpet beetle larva, some kind of ciliate-esque organism would be appropriate, perhaps from a Bruhlio (although I can't see the image now). |
That's what I'm winding up doing.
The original idea was to combine it with another organism... but that didn't work out
(new one is the WIP thread).
Its kinda an homage to the Urshowad as well.
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