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I could use some more critiques on trying to make their ancestors cellular layout work.

Are these meant to be similar to filamentous bacteria? (see here, at the bottom)

"they shave" should be "they have".

"As cellular parasites, they shave a much more simplified their cellular structures,[...]"
Did you mean: "As cellular parasites, they have greatly simplified their cellular structures".

"They have no centralized nucleus," You surely meant to use a semicolon or colon.

"Once they have successful entered" should be "once they have successfully entered".

"high jack" is a typo; you meant "hijack".

"oasis" should be in the plural, as in "oases".

It seems its ancestor's lifestyle was similar to a Vampyrella, an amoeboid protist with many long pseudopodia that sucks out cellular contents.

They should be fixed now

Are you certain you are interpreting them correctly? In fact, it looks like they were uploaded wrong on the wiki and are in fact called string cells, not sting cells. Further, the art shows an empty center.


I think the text is also implying the nucleus structure is in some way string-like. Also, it is explicitly a cytovore, not an endoparasite.

This post has been edited by Disgustedorite: Jan 4 2021, 08:50 PM

There is some discussion in the discord about how to retcon some of the behaviors to make the sting cells more in-line with being plausible. The original description was vague, and has gone thru several retcons over the years trying to make it work. It even wasn’t originally a cytovore, just listing “Diet: Other Cells”. So I dug back thru the older gamingsteve entry and the other descendants to try and make something that sounds like a reasonable appropriation of what was intended. It enters the cell, devours it from the inside, uses the hosts organelles to create necessary proteins and such, then when it grows big one of the strings detach.

Like here is the original entry:

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Sting Cell Creator: Yokto Ancestor: Protosagania Size: Microscopic Habitat: Sagan Ociancs Diet: Other Cells Reproduction: fission Sting Cell is a odd looking Cell. In hase no central nucleas but a sting of small clusters within one long cellmembrane. These strings are so small and thin that they can pentrate other cell walls with. Then the cell suck out the content of the other cell it has attacked. When the cell becomes to larger and start to reproduse it simply let go of one of is stringy arms.

The description has lead to a lot of misinterpretations so this is meant to be the final one, and one that makes sense with the other descendants all being fusions

That version of the description literally says it penetrates other cells and sucks out their insides, with no mention of actually entering them. It reminds me of a cell I saw once that has a long neck, though instead of sucking stuff out it just bit out whole chunks of its fellow cells.

Looking into this more, it also appears to violate the laws of physics. This is so small that, given its shape, it physically cannot have a cell membrane, nuclear membrane, and even just a single strand of DNA all packed in there; even if it could all be scrunched in, there's no room for actin filaments, which are necessary for its strings to move. The features of the original species also make no sense for an endoparasite and are more like the characteristics seen in some predatory cells in real life.

This would need to be completely revamped from scratch to be acceptable given all above issues. Therefore, I reject this.

This post has been edited by Disgustedorite: Jan 9 2021, 04:44 PM

It seems I misinterpreted the description and the strings are what are 1 micrometer wide. This is still too skinny for the size and complexity of its genome storage, and the description lends itself heavily to misinterpretation. The other issues still stand and it now also has the issue of it being too big to actually pass through a cell wall to do what it is stated to do, so my rejection also stands.

Slight changes have been made to bring it in line with the new description of the ancestor.

This still changes the strategy from the ancestor. It would be inaccurate, misleading, and dishonest for this to be a genus replacement by the same name.

This post has been edited by Disgustedorite: Jan 15 2021, 11:32 AM

How? It’s no longer labeled a parasite, and at this point it’s just a rewording of the new description

The ancestor is explicitly external. This is explicitly internal.

It would still also need to be smaller to actually squeeze its entire body into its prey, especially since the connections between strings need to be taken into account.

I also still hold that a multi-string species makes no sense as fully internal. If only one string matters, why have so many?

This post has been edited by Disgustedorite: Jan 15 2021, 12:37 PM

Since it's edited to be a predator instead, can I suggest changing all mentions of hosts?

Also, since I misinterpreted the size, I think it's too unclear; it should specify that's the width of a string.

Should be fixed

Yokto stated that he preferred it as an external predator. The description should reflect this.