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It can be in multiple biomes, as long as they are all connected

I will note that you did not actually need to crop the rest of the image. It provided a lot of important information. I don't know why Coolsteph told you to do that. @Primalpikachu

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 1 2022, 08:52 PM)

I will note that you did not actually need to crop the rest of the image. It provided a lot of important information. I don't know why Coolsteph told you to do that. @Primalpikachu

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I, personally, do not recommend putting text on it, and I recommend splitting the top view and side view into separate images, with the side view being a supplemental image.

The image did provide important information, but I considered it best to put into a supplemental image. My Vase Seacural is an example of putting diagrammatic information into a supplemental image.

Is there anything else that might conflict or that I need to take into consideration?

Ok, everything should be good formatting wise and realistic to my knowledge. Are there any more things that could enhance the believability further?

I believe this is demonstrates a good enough understanding of the rules to allow for this to progress to the Organism Submission thread for further discussion. Note: this does not guarentee that this species will be approved, and could still be rejected under scrutiny

@Primalpikachu Welcome to the Sagan 4 Alpha Team! Please repost your submission in the Organism Submission subforum.

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Name: Bonewyrn (Aceralatus Tenebrae)
Creator: Demon7sword
Ancestor: Slicewing

Habitat:
Size: 13m long

Diet: Carnivore (Vermees, Xenobees, Minikruggs, Cloudswarmers, Silkruggs, Xenowasps, Teacup Saucebacks, Neuks, Sapworms, Nectarworm, Leafcutter Krugg, Spiked Krugg, Egg Krugg, Iron Siever, Shieldworm, Lickworm, Flugwurm, Pewpa, Communal Janit, Infilt Pewpa), Frugivore (Qupe Tree, Fuzzweed, Fruiting Glog)

Reproduction :Asexual: laying eggs
Support:???
Thermoregulation: Heterotherm (Basking, Heat from Muscle Activity), Torpor
Respiration:Semi-Active (Unidirectional Tracheae)



The Bonewyrm split from its ancestor the splicewing in Fermi Tundra. It has developed a unique lifestyle where it uses the corpses of deceased predators as dens and preserves it by covering it with a membrane stored in its face claws, which it developed along with its stinger

Hello, Demon7sword.
For your entry submission, I recommend making it as close to finished as possible. Otherwise, we can't properly evaluate it. There's no hurry. You don't need to take up a work-in-progress slot here.
I figure you'll fill out the other details later, but it is especially important to make sure the picture is available on the forum itself. You can enter the picture link through the IMG button above the text box for a full reply. Your picture seems to have been made on Microsoft Paint, either by using a very thick pencil tool or by very low resolution. Art submissions obviously made on Microsoft Paint are acceptable, but it does look very jagged and blocky. I recommend either enlarging the picture and cleaning up its lineart, or trying again with proportionately thinner lineart. For simple art styles on Microsoft Paint, I recommend looking at this art for the Fisticoat (first one) or Mostly Purple Snoa (second one).

So, as the first alien that i have, its the Hominos, a specie of bird that can variate a lot of color, beak shape, tails quantity, but if is there a thing that all of them have in common, its his tail, that have a glowing bioluminesense, but they can variate of many colors.

They have a size of a macaw

QUOTE (DemonicTigerBr @ Jan 25 2023, 06:17 PM)

So, as the first alien that i have, its the Hominos, a specie of bird that can variate a lot of color, beak shape, tails quantity, but if is there a thing that all of them have in common, its his tail, that have a glowing bioluminesense, but they can variate of many colors. They have a size of a macaw

@DemonicTigerBr, You must have been very eager indeed to become a member, because it looks like you zeroed in on this topic. Lurk around for a while first. Get familiar with the conventions and rules of organism submission. I recommend starting with the Sagan 4 Project Rules, and then looking for a suitable organism to evolve from on the wiki. (To make your search easier: skysnappers, phylers and biats are loosely birdlike.)

I noticed that you made several English usage errors in your description. If English isn't your native language, you may find it easier to start with a simple organism, with a shorter, simpler idea. I believe looking among genus groups on the Week 27 Ecosystem Page will speed up your search for an organism that's easy to write a good description for. All you have to do is paraphrase some basic details from the genus group you're evolving it from, and add any novel features, like being adapted to specific conditions or specialized for a particular way of life or diet. Microbe (e.g., bacteria-like or protist-like) or flora (like plants) submissions are generally easier to draw and write descriptions for than fauna (like animals).

@demon7sword, it's very hard to interpret the art. The way the wings and legs were drawn makes it difficult to tell it was descended from the Slicewing. Since it seems you have trouble drawing shapes and depth, I recommend starting with simpler shapes, to build up your skills. Thankfully, there are plenty of organisms which are easy to draw. I've even made a first draft of a list of easy-to-draw organisms for our latest influx of members, though I'm getting feedback from other staff members before posting it.

Judging by what I can guess from your art and what I can guess of your writing ability or knowledge of biology, if you want to start with fauna, I recommend making a descendant of some kind of Qural or Pukai. There are likely other options, but those are the two at the top of my head. Try going to the Sagan 4 wiki (Alpha timeline, to be clear) to find one of them, and then make a descendant for them. If want something even simpler to write and draw, the Marbleflora or Chambered Bobiiro are very simple. They're just circles with spots, stripes, or little plus-shaped patterns.

If you're using Microsoft Paint, the simplest solution to improve your art's lineart issues is to make solid lineart (with no grey dots at the edge to soften it) with the pencil icon, and then use the paint bucket in the white space enclosed within the lines.

You'll still need to post the art on the forum, of course. A webpage link won't work for the template.

You can use a discord link to the image placed within [I m g] link [/I m g] and that should work, remove the spaces from img in the brackets.

Ripper Spelunkhoe (Unguibus manibus)
Creator: KXDino8
Ancestor: Dusty Spelunkhoe
Habitat: Barlowe Temperate Rainforest, Barlowe Temperate Woodland
Size: 70cm long
Diet: Herbivore (Rainforest Carnofern, Barline, Fuzzpile, Mainland Fuzzpalm)
Respiration: Lungs
Thermoregulation: (Didn't say on the ancestor's page)
Support: Wooden Bones
Reproduction: Sexual, Two Sexes, Live Birth


These fauna are more elongated than their ancestors, allowing them to slide through tunnels easily. They use their sharp beaks to pierce through flora matter and predators. Their backwards facing claws aid them in digging. They use their back feet and tails to push away dirt. They have small sails on their backs that can be raised and lowered which are used solely for display purposes. Their pinkish pattern helps to break up their shape

These fauna have better vision than their ancestors and are sensitive to movement in the dark. During night they venture out of their burrows and eat any berries, vegetables, and young stalks they can find, all while one family member watches for predators. During the day they retreat to the tunnels and rest, occasionally digging around for young roots.

They live in small family groups of 2-6 and mainly use their claws for breaking apart tough foods and digging. The burrows have a spiral shape which allows them to escape danger quickly. Within the burrow is one large room, in which all the family's young are raised. A family group may have multiple connected burrows or just one.

Their ears have been slightly fleshed over, and their nostrils have moved up along their tail. The vestigial leaves have been completely lost.

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@KXDino8 as I said before, this is a really good first submission! I do have a couple comments though:

- The ears are missing - they're the circular things above the shoulders on the ancestor
- The tail nostril is missing - the ancestor's tail is like that because its tail opens like a flower to breathe
- The vestigial leaves on the side are missing, but those could probably be lost since they're vestigial anyway

(psst, @Coolsteph, new member submission!)

@KXDino8:

Use the image link of the image, and then add it to the forum using the link button just above the textbox that appears if you click "Full Reply". It's above the upper left of the text box.

The lines of the template should not be spaced out like that, though I suppose the submission formatting topic doesn’t make that clear. Here’s an exampleexample of correct spacing formatting.

For habitat, put “Barlowe Temperate Rainforest, Barlowe Temperate Woodland”. (No quotes, to be clear) On the wiki, habitats aren’t listed by “and”.

Diet: You’ll need to specify the “roots” and “ground vegetables”. Personally, I recommend getting familiar with the specific organisms living in a habitat for one’s submissions. It does feel lazy to resort to listing out exclusively genus groups as part of the diet. Still, the easiest solution is to go through the genus groups listings and find flora with roots or other underground structures it could eat. Sunstalks are one example.

For support, put wooden bones, since its lineage has wooden bones by default. As for thermoregulation and respiration….those are newly-added parts to the template, like support, so information isn’t yet available for all organisms.

The “animals” on Sagan 4 are called “fauna”, because they’re not actually in the kingdom Animalia.
“Easily, they”: The comma should be a period.
It is odd their eyes would be better than their ancestors while they simultaneously seem more adapted to life as a burrowing fauna.
“Enemies” is an odd turn of phrase. Did you mean “predators”.
I’m not sure how a semi-webbed tail would aid it in digging, or even what a semi-webbed tail would look like.

Why is it pink? If you’re doing that to suggest a naked mole rat, it’s important to know that plent blood is green, so they wouldn’t be pinkish if unpigmented. (As for the actual biochemistry of why their blood is green…that’s still being worked on, but it’s a long-established feature of the lineage from long ago, when Sagan 4’s scientific plausibility standards were lower.)

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Rainforest_Carnofern

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Mainland_Fuzzpalm

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Qupe_Tree

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Clusterspades

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Barnline

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Sweet_Red_Spade

these are some possible options for organisms to add to the diet section based off the description of eating roots (Keep in mind eating tender young roots, or the roots of yearling sprouts is a thing, if you were to eye the larger options) and were taken from one of the two listed biomes.

I really like this design.

For their eyesight I would suggest giving a purpose to them being better, as opposed to becoming more blind as subterranean critters often do.

You stated they they will eat vegetables, perhaps they venture out at night and have greater light/dark sensitivity for noticing movement in the moonlight. Otherwise keeping their eyes shut while digging tunnels or resting during the day.