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Here's the ancestor for anyone curious,


This is a fantastic first submission.

“It developed a neck, but like its ancestor, it is losing the shield that served to defend it from predators and for photosynthesis, giving importance to a diet based on fruits and other plants.”
You mean to suggest that the reduced size of its “shield” (photosynthetic plates), which allows it to photosynthesize, makes actually eating things more important, right? Since this sentence also contains a clause about its neck, it was initially hard to tell what the development of a neck had to do with the greater important of fruits and other plants in its diet.

“In order to achieve”: What pressure was it under to achieve greater speed? Does it have fast predators? Does it migrate? Since it doesn’t have a different habitat from its ancestor, it can’t simply be a “generic” adaptation for a new habitat.
“Shearch for aliments”. “Shearch” is not a word. “Aliments” is a very obscure way to refer to “food”; I initially read it as a typo of the more common (if still somewhat rare) word “ailments”. “Search for food” is better. I’ve observed that sometimes native French speakers can use uncommon and fancy-seeming English words when translating to English. Are you translating this description from another language?
“As its ancestor”: As in its ancestor.
“For surviving”. That doesn’t make semantic sense.

Incidentally, we don't use "plants" here. All the "plants" are not actually in the Kingdom Plantae, so we call them "flora".

I also believe the description should be longer. For large, complex organism, that description is jarringly short. A description of that length is more typical for a microbe, especially one which metabolizes something unusual. (Obscure metabolisms can be difficult to understand.)

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Apr 1 2023, 03:05 PM)

“It developed a neck, but like its ancestor, it is losing the shield that served to defend it from predators and for photosynthesis, giving importance to a diet based on fruits and other plants.” You mean to suggest that the reduced size of its “shield” (photosynthetic plates), which allows it to photosynthesize, makes actually eating things more important, right? Since this sentence also contains a clause about its neck, it was initially hard to tell what the development of a neck had to do with the greater important of fruits and other plants in its diet. “In order to achieve”: What pressure was it under to achieve greater speed? Does it have fast predators? Does it migrate? Since it doesn’t have a different habitat from its ancestor, it can’t simply be a “generic” adaptation for a new habitat. “Shearch for aliments”. “Shearch” is not a word. “Aliments” is a very obscure way to refer to “food”; I initially read it as a typo of the more common (if still somewhat rare) word “ailments”. “Search for food” is better.  I’ve observed that sometimes native French speakers can use uncommon and fancy-seeming English words when translating to English. Are you translating this description from another language? “As its ancestor”: As in its ancestor. “For surviving”. That doesn’t make semantic sense. Incidentally, we don't use "plants" here. All the "plants" are not actually in the Kingdom Plantae, so we call them "flora". I also believe the description should be longer. For large, complex organism, that description is jarringly short. A description of that length is more typical for a microbe, especially one which metabolizes something unusual. (Obscure metabolisms can be difficult to understand.)

ok

QUOTE (FaunaComplete @ Apr 1 2023, 01:15 PM)

Phenagouti (Sagmaticavia phenamimus) Creator: FaunaComplete Ancestor: Okagouti Habitat: Drake Boreal, Drake Temperate Woodland Size: 65 cm long Diet: Herbivore (Pioneeroots, Marbleflora), Frugivore (Qupe Tree fruit, Lurspire fruit), Graminivore (Forest Quone nuts), Photosynthesis Respiration: Active (Lungs) Thermoregulation: Endotherm Support: Endoskeleton (Jointed Wood) Reproduction: Sexual, Live Birth, Two Sexes The Phenagouti splits from its ancestor, the Okagouti. This species evolved with longer legs and a longer body in order to achieve greater speed for migration. It developed a neck and its ears are smaller. like its ancestor, it is losing the shield that served to defend it from predators and for photosynthesis. Its loses a part of the green coloration. It feeds for small flora as Pioneeroots and Marbleflora; and fallen fruit. Like as its ancestors the Phenagouti only gets a part of its energy with photosynthesis; primary getting its energy from the food that it consumes,. This species live in herds for move to other places and search for food. As in its ancestor, the female gives birth to many offspring. Its light-sensing in the snout enables him to detect predator and search for food.

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Bubble-throated Eggsticker (Semperiuvenis piscator)
Creator: Future Tyrannosaurus
Ancestor: Bubble-Throated Anklebiter
Habitat: Fermi Archiepleago, Fermi Steppe,Oofle Tundra
Size: 120 cm tall males, 40 cm long females
Support: Endoskeleton
Diet: Scavenger, Marbleflora, Snotflora Males: Omnivore (Alshamite, Stackstalk, Farmphibian,
Teacup Sauceback, Mini Kruggs, Krugg, Climbing Korrybug)
Respiration: Active (Lungs)
Thermoregulation: Ectotherm
Reproduction: Sexual, Two sexes, Frog-like eggs


The Bubble-throated Eggsticker split from its ancestor. This Saganisuchian differs quite alot from the ancestor. The most notable difference is that the adults don’t die as fast. It stopped cannibalizing each other as young, which caused them to be more plentiful. Instead of temporary pools, it lays eggs in more permanent pools of water. The females stay in their young, fish-like appearance to save maximum energy for reproduction. They don’t feed themselves when they are adults- the males feed them instead. The males, when adults, stand upright, walking on two legs for better looking for prey. They are capable of eating food as adults now, specializing in small fauna like Kruggs. When feeding a female, it will regurgitate the “Chewed up” food it was grinding with the bony bumps in the mouth, functioning like teeth. They are still deaf, relying on their bubble-throats to impress females. During mating season, the males will be in the pools of water, showing the colorful blue-throat, impressing females. Once it has a mate, the male will pick up the female and travel around. During this time, the male eats a lot of food, while the female is preparing to lay eggs. When the female can lay eggs, the male makes sure it is in a safe environment, and has the females lay eggs all over the throat. The eggs stick to the male, with a sticky ooze, covering the blue colored throat. The females die after laying eggs, using all the energy it had, but the male continues to live on. The male will guard these eggs, constantly being in the water, but occasionally coming out for kruggs. By the time the eggs hatch, the male will die, releasing a heat around it, which speeds up hatching of remaining unhatched eggs. The male provides food for the young Bubble Throated Eggstickers. They are poisonous like their ancestors, and when threatened, will show their yellow bellies. The adults have spots to signal poison before showing the belly.

QUOTE (Future Tyrannosaurus @ Apr 18 2023, 09:45 AM)

Bubble-throated Eggsticker (Semperiuvenis piscator) Creator: Future Tyrannosaurus Ancestor: Bubble-Throated Anklebiter Habitat: Fermi Archiepleago, Fermi Steppe,Oofle Tundra Size: 120 cm tall males, 40 cm long females Support: Endoskeleton Diet: Scavenger, Marbleflora, Snotflora Males: Omnivore (Alshamite, Stackstalk, Farmphibian, Teacup Sauceback, Mini Kruggs, Krugg, Climbing Korrybug) Respiration: Active (Lungs) Thermoregulation: Ectotherm Reproduction: Sexual, Two sexes, Frog-like eggs   The Bubble-throated Eggsticker split from its ancestor. This Saganisuchian differs quite alot from the ancestor. The most notable difference is that the adults don’t die as fast. It stopped cannibalizing each other as young, which caused them to be more plentiful. Instead of temporary pools, it lays eggs in more permanent pools of water. The females stay in their young, fish-like appearance to save maximum energy for reproduction. They don’t feed themselves when they are adults- the males feed them instead. The males, when adults, stand upright, walking on two legs for better looking for prey. They are capable of eating food as adults now, specializing in small fauna like Kruggs. When feeding a female, it will regurgitate the “Chewed up” food it was grinding with the bony bumps in the mouth, functioning like teeth. They are still deaf, relying on their bubble-throats to impress females. During mating season, the males will be in the pools of water, showing the colorful blue-throat, impressing females. Once it has a mate, the male will pick up the female and travel around. During this time, the male eats a lot of food, while the female is preparing to lay eggs. When the female can lay eggs, the male makes sure it is in a safe environment, and has the females lay eggs all over the throat. The eggs stick to the male, with a sticky ooze, covering the blue colored throat. The females die after laying eggs, using all the energy it had, but the male continues to live on. The male will guard these eggs, constantly being in the water, but occasionally coming out for kruggs. By the time the eggs hatch, the male will die, releasing a heat around it, which speeds up hatching of remaining unhatched eggs. The male provides food for the young Bubble Throated Eggstickers. They are poisonous like their ancestors, and when threatened, will show their yellow bellies. The adults have spots to signal poison before showing the belly.

I like it. Can't find any glaring mistakes with it.

QUOTE (Future Tyrannosaurus @ Apr 18 2023, 02:45 PM)

Bubble-throated Eggsticker (Semperiuvenis piscator) Creator: Future Tyrannosaurus Ancestor: Bubble-Throated Anklebiter Habitat: Fermi Archiepleago, Fermi Steppe,Oofle Tundra Size: 120 cm tall males, 40 cm long females Support: Endoskeleton Diet: Scavenger, Marbleflora, Snotflora Males: Omnivore (Alshamite, Stackstalk, Farmphibian, Teacup Sauceback, Mini Kruggs, Krugg, Climbing Korrybug) Respiration: Active (Lungs) Thermoregulation: Ectotherm Reproduction: Sexual, Two sexes, Frog-like eggs   The Bubble-throated Eggsticker split from its ancestor. This Saganisuchian differs quite alot from the ancestor. The most notable difference is that the adults don’t die as fast. It stopped cannibalizing each other as young, which caused them to be more plentiful. Instead of temporary pools, it lays eggs in more permanent pools of water. The females stay in their young, fish-like appearance to save maximum energy for reproduction. They don’t feed themselves when they are adults- the males feed them instead. The males, when adults, stand upright, walking on two legs for better looking for prey. They are capable of eating food as adults now, specializing in small fauna like Kruggs. When feeding a female, it will regurgitate the “Chewed up” food it was grinding with the bony bumps in the mouth, functioning like teeth. They are still deaf, relying on their bubble-throats to impress females. During mating season, the males will be in the pools of water, showing the colorful blue-throat, impressing females. Once it has a mate, the male will pick up the female and travel around. During this time, the male eats a lot of food, while the female is preparing to lay eggs. When the female can lay eggs, the male makes sure it is in a safe environment, and has the females lay eggs all over the throat. The eggs stick to the male, with a sticky ooze, covering the blue colored throat. The females die after laying eggs, using all the energy it had, but the male continues to live on. The male will guard these eggs, constantly being in the water, but occasionally coming out for kruggs. By the time the eggs hatch, the male will die, releasing a heat around it, which speeds up hatching of remaining unhatched eggs. The male provides food for the young Bubble Throated Eggstickers. They are poisonous like their ancestors, and when threatened, will show their yellow bellies. The adults have spots to signal poison before showing the belly.

One slight issue, the tadpole should show all limbs

It's depicting the male and female
Note: swap with colddigger

Righto, the female sounds like it needs a slight tweak, assuming there's four limbs on the body. good thing to keep in mind when drawing legs, it automatically grants your drawing a little more perceived depth once all are drawn on.

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