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Would you suggest I tweak the design's teeth, and then tweak its two intended descendants' teeth when I post them, or that I make a note in the retcon that its teeth are unusual?

I recommend tweaking the design to fix the teeth.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Jun 20 2021, 01:08 PM)
Would you suggest I tweak the design's teeth, and then tweak its two intended descendants' teeth when I post them, or that I make a note in the retcon that its teeth are unusual?


I already had a design where its dentition works better
user posted image

Do you guys think this would better fit its lifestyle?

The two buck teeth grind against each other, able to shear off chunks of food that the back teeth can then further process.

This post has been edited by OviraptorFan: Jun 20 2021, 01:20 PM

Do Gilltails have scales? It's an important detail for whether I should add scales for my Srugeing descendant, the Minosparro. The Polar Kelpoggle (Generation 139) and Left-Right Scalucker (Generation 153) descriptions suggests that they do.

Gilltails do not have scales and never have.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jun 20 2021, 05:14 PM)
QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Jun 20 2021, 01:08 PM)
Would you suggest I tweak the design's teeth, and then tweak its two intended descendants' teeth when I post them, or that I make a note in the retcon that its teeth are unusual?


I already had a design where its dentition works better
user posted image

Do you guys think this would better fit its lifestyle?

The two buck teeth grind against each other, able to shear off chunks of food that the back teeth can then further process.


So uh. What did you all think of this design?

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jun 20 2021, 08:41 PM)
QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jun 20 2021, 05:14 PM)
QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Jun 20 2021, 01:08 PM)
Would you suggest I tweak the design's teeth, and then tweak its two intended descendants' teeth when I post them, or that I make a note in the retcon that its teeth are unusual?


I already had a design where its dentition works better
user posted image

Do you guys think this would better fit its lifestyle?

The two buck teeth grind against each other, able to shear off chunks of food that the back teeth can then further process.


So uh. What did you all think of this design?


Okay so, since no one has commented on this. I'll take it this looks good?

Yes, it looks good. I'll simply have to adjust the Handlicker Dundi art myself later.

I believe coolsteph has a point about the bejeweled emperor scylarian, so I propose this rewrite:

"One of the larger splits off the rosy scylarian, the bejeweled emperor scylarian has evolved a more robust, powerful form, as well as a prominent tailfin and larger flippers. A much more capable swimmer than any scylarian that has come before it, they effortlessly cruse through the water column, only occasionally slowing down in order to bask near the surface. While one might view this as them being slow swimmers, the truth is in fact the opposite, as they can produce enough power and speed through movement of their tailfins in order to breach the water's surface and rise several feet into the air. The truth behind their periods of near-stillness is that it attracts various smaller sea life to them that will gladly clean their bodies of external parasites.

These scylarian mate for life, forming pairs that will stick together for their entire lives, which can be as long as twenty years. Working together, they cooperate to hunt down various smaller prey species, often forcing them into bait balls before slamming into them with mouths agape in order to devour as many as they can, as well as potentially stun others for later consumption once the prey inevitably disperse. Young - often born in groups of seven or eight - are showed no parental care, and will often shelter themselves beneath the tangled roots of islandballs similar floating structures out in the ocean. Should they survive their youths, they will reach their full size with three years and attain sexual maturity within another. Once they do so, they will often seek out a mate with which to spend the rest of their lives with. Should either mate die off, though, such as to predation, they will not seek out another.

Their name arises from their bones, which, upon the removal of the surrounding flesh, appear to be nearly an iridescent shade of green in color. At a glance, one would not be faulted for thinking that it was the bones themselves that have taken up this near-luminescent, vibrant coloration, but this is not what is going on here. In actuality, this emerald-like hue is due to the presence of a pigment known as biliverdin that, like in the gar and such of Earth, saturates the structural protein known as collagen that encompasses the bones, particularly in the regions of the spin. This overly pigment-rich protein is the true source of the coloration, for without it, the bones of the bejeweled emperor scylarian would be no different from those of any of its kin."

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I like the design of the tambuck, and I'm getting some mink/otter vibes from its appearance.

This post has been edited by Nergali: Jun 26 2021, 09:27 PM

Unless their skin is just slightly iridescent, I wouldn't say catching the light of dusk or dawn justifies called them "bejeweled emperor scylarians".

I was going to suggest polyfee and bonyfee colonization somewhat paralleling barnacles on whales, but it turns out both only showed up after the bejeweled emperor scylarian. You could say its bones are an unusual color, and shiny and colorful like jewelry. Garfish have unusual bones, so it's not unprecedented.

Ok, I made the recommended changes, and left it to just unnamed external parasites.

QUOTE (Nergali @ Jun 27 2021, 01:04 AM)
I believe coolsteph has a point about the bejeweled emperor scylarian, so I propose this rewrite:

"One of the larger splits off the rosy scylarian, the bejeweled emperor scylarian has evolved a more robust, powerful form, as well as a prominent tailfin and larger flippers. A much more capable swimmer than any scylarian that has come before it, they effortlessly cruse through the water column, only occasionally slowing down in order to bask near the surface. While one might view this as them being slow swimmers, the truth is in fact the opposite, as they can produce enough power and speed through movement of their tailfins in order to breach the water's surface and rise several feet into the air. The truth behind their periods of near-stillness is that it attracts various smaller sea life to them that will gladly clean their bodies of external parasites. 

These scylarian mate for life, forming pairs that will stick together for their entire lives, which can be as long as twenty years. Working together, they cooperate to hunt down various smaller prey species, often forcing them into bait balls before slamming into them with mouths agape in order to devour as many as they can, as well as potentially stun others for later consumption once the prey inevitably disperse. Young - often born in groups of seven or eight - are showed no parental care, and will often shelter themselves beneath the tangled roots of islandballs similar floating structures out in the ocean. Should they survive their youths, they will reach their full size with three years and attain sexual maturity within another. Once they do so, they will often seek out a mate with which to spend the rest of their lives with. Should either mate die off, though, such as to predation, they will not seek out another.

Their name arises from their bones, which, upon the removal of the surrounding flesh, appear to be nearly an iridescent shade of green in color. At a glance, one would not be faulted for thinking that it was the bones themselves that have taken up this near-luminescent, vibrant coloration, but this is not what is going on here. In actuality, this emerald-like hue is due to the presence of a pigment known as biliverdin that, like in the gar and such of Earth, saturates the structural protein known as collagen that encompasses the bones, particularly in the regions of the spin. This overly pigment-rich protein is the true source of the coloration, for without it, the bones of the bejeweled emperor scylarian would be no different from those of any of its kin."

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I like the design of the tambuck, and I'm getting some mink/otter vibes from its appearance.

Approved

Just a heads up for people who mainly use the forum since it was discussed and approved through Discord, the Shimmering Marephasmatises have been edited to clarify the morphology and origin of their "nematocytes" in more detail.

user posted image

Here's the new Duramboar image, with updated toes.

Adjustment to Duramboar description:
Removal of "speed" in: "This, along with its lack of defenses, speed, and inability to hide, makes it a favorite food of large carnivores like the shantak, draneck, snapperky, and snapjaw sandcrock."

Last paragraph addition:

Over millions of years, the pressures of its constant migration and dependence on speed to avoid predators have led to thickened, hoof-like claws the loss of its toes. The third front-facing toe has become vestigial, a mere bone remnant inside its foot.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Sep 23 2021, 12:58 AM)
user posted image

Here's the new Duramboar image, with updated toes.

Adjustment to Duramboar description:
Removal of "speed" in:  "This, along with its lack of defenses, speed, and inability to hide, makes it a favorite food of large carnivores like the shantak, draneck, snapperky, and snapjaw sandcrock."

Last paragraph addition:

Over millions of years, the pressures of its constant migration and dependence on speed to avoid predators have led to thickened, hoof-like claws the loss of its toes. The third front-facing toe has become vestigial, a mere bone remnant inside its foot.


There are two major things I need to point out.

1. Their ancestors only had two toes on each hind leg, much like that of other tilebacks, so what is that bony projection doing there at the back?

2. If the third front-facing toe on the front foot is a mere bone remnant inside of its foot, then what is that projection at the back?

I do find the general description edits good though.



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