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QUOTE (Maineiac)
Water has been found on the moon!
https://blog.sfgate.com/gleick/2009/11/13/water-on-the-moon/

QUOTE (MNIDJM)

India found it. Water on the moon is very important, it could allow use to build ships that can travel to Mars in a fraction of the time.


QUOTE (penumbra espinosa)

the gives a question: why an space station if we have the whole moon??


QUOTE (Hydromancerx)

QUOTE (penumbra espinosa)

the gives a question: why an space station if we have the whole moon??

Because the moon has gravity while the space station has none.


QUOTE (penumbra espinosa)

that doesnt have sense, or at least i dont get it.


QUOTE (Building Blocks)

also the moon is out of the way


QUOTE (MNIDJM)

It's less expencive this way...for now.

On the getting to mars faster thing, on a special on the science channel they were talking about ships with a giant parachute that catch the explosive force of the ice, after doing something to it that I forget the specifics of, that propels it at speeds much faster then rocket fuel.


QUOTE (Building Blocks)

QUOTE (MNIDJM)

It's less expencive this way...for now.

On the getting to mars faster thing, on a special on the science channel they were talking about ships with a giant parachute that catch the explosive force of the ice, after doing something to it that I forget the specifics of, that propels it at speeds much faster then rocket fuel.

guess what burning solid rocket fuel makes.


QUOTE (MNIDJM)

I remember now, they use a concentrated beam of light to over heat the ice as such a rapid pace it causes an explosion.


QUOTE (penumbra espinosa)

how about plasma and solar sails??


QUOTE (mam74)

QUOTE (Hydromancerx)

QUOTE (penumbra espinosa)

the gives a question: why an space station if we have the whole moon??

Because the moon has gravity while the space station has none.

There are two problems with the moon:
1. on the moon, it costs about $8,000,000,000 to get one gallon of DRINKABLE water to the moon. 8 billion dollars for 1 gallon of water? INSANE!
2. it's easier to build in zero gravity than in weak gravity.

QUOTE (Hydromancerx)

Very smart crows

Here's a handy reference for reptile/dinosaur-esque polar adaptations. While supplied with Fermi's thornback species in mind, it could be useful elsewhere, too.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/how-dino...ved-in-the-snow
https://museum.wa.gov.au/explore/dinosaur-d.../leaellynasaura
http://blog.hmns.org/2017/12/polar-dinosau...able-than-elfs/

The Cretaceous polar climates were warmer than they were today, but nonetheless the polar forest references may be useful:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Polar_r..._the_Cretaceous

Here are some interesting references about intrapspecific (within-species) venom variations. It might be useful when describing subtle internal differences between different populations of the same venomous Sagan 4 species.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep43237
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4963843/
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6651/11/12/711/htm
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1565297



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