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QUOTE (HethrJarrod @ May 25 2023, 11:33 AM)
QUOTE (Hydromancerx @ May 25 2023, 02:01 PM)
Are the trunks covered in leaves too? It's hard to tell since its the same color as the top.

I envisioned them kinda like palm trees.

The trunk is made from the remnants of older leaves.

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You should probably make it a duller or darker color then.

Added sexual reproduction and more info on it.

Added sexual reproduction and info.

Changed to sexual reproduction and added some info on it.

Are the trunks covered in leaves too? It's hard to tell since its the same color as the top.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ May 25 2023, 07:00 AM)
“Pours”: “pores”.
“And is why it is called “Royal””. (“Royal” should not be capitalized here.)
Rotting things can vary greatly in nutritional composition and how readily fungi/other decomposers can break them down. Train wrecker mushrooms, for example, are wood specialists, while hat-thrower fungi are dung specialists. Since this is a single species and not a genus group, limiting its diet makes even more sense.

These pores must be shallow if the Hikerflora can still photosynthesize, unless there is a clear membrane above those pores.


Fixed.

QUOTE (colddigger @ May 25 2023, 08:23 AM)
I thought the ancestor was also asexual, not that I like that I think that giving these guys regular black Flora combining spores makes more sense.

The genus group, Sunstalks says asexual. What should i do? Can it be sexual for the spores?

Looks cool! Please give more info!

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Pelagic Greengill (Verdosangui pelagicus)

Creator: Hydromancerx
Ancestor: Greengill
Habitat: North Jujubee Ocean Subpolar Sunlight Zone, Jujubee Ocean Polar Sunlight Zone, North Jujubee Ocean Temperate Sunlight Zone
Size: 10 cm Long
Support: Unknown
Diet: Herbivore (Chambered Bubblegea, Colonial Bubblgea)
Respiration: Unknown
Thermoregulation: Unknown
Reproduction: Sexual, Eggs attatched to Bubblegea, Two Sexes

The Pelagic Greengill split from its ancestor the Greengill. It has changed it diet from shrubite to bubblegea species. It has left the crowded coastlines to the open ocean. There it can eat the various floating bubblegea, such as the Chambered Bubblegea and Colonial Bubblgea. Its darker coloration help it blend in the the black color of the bubblegea. They spend most of their lives climbing on or swimming around bubblegea. It provides them with both food and shelter.

It has developed a more advanced locomotion. Rather than just a jet on either side now there are 3 jets on either side. Two pointing forward, two pointing backwards and two pointing to the side. This allows them to propel themselves in any direction by using the correct combination of jets. Like its ancestor, its face are many gill slits, which suck in water. They are green in color because of their sulfur based blood. At the top of their conical calcium shell are 6 siphons, which expelled the water that is breathed in by the gills.

Like their ancestor, they have a long hollow tooth between their legs which they use to eat. Inside the tooth is a strong acid that can melt and dissolve the bubblgea into a liquid so it can drink it. They have 2 sexes and will mate each full moon. Once the eggs are fertilized, the female will expel the eggs out of the siphons at the top of its shell aim them at the side of Bubblegea. They have a sticky outer coating that helps them adhere to the surface of the Bubblegea. The offspring must survive on their own. Many do not even reach adulthood. Since they are born on their food source they have a better chance to survive than if they were laid out in the open waters.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ May 24 2023, 10:24 AM)

I will say that perhaps these would look less anatomical if they had more roots extending off of the big tubers. I can't imagine a tuber as the only root being very stable.


I have some bulbs in my garden that are similar to this actually. They seem to do just fine.

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Royal Doubleshroom (Duofungi regium)
Creator: Hydromancerx
Ancestor: Supershrooms
Habitat: Raptor Tropical Rainforest, Dixon Subtropical Rainforest, Dixon Tropical Woodland, West Wallace Tropical Woodland, Dixon Subtropical Woodland, Wallace Tropical Scrub
Size: 80 cm Tall
Support: Cellulose
Diet: Detritivore
Respiration: Unknown
Thermoregulation: Ectotherm
Reproduction: Asexual Budding, Sexual Nectar Puffs and Spore Berries, Hermaphroditic

The Royal Doubleshroom split from the Supershrooms genus group. They have grown much taller and have a double cap. Under the edges of the cap are bead-like chains of pink berries. Before the berries form they have developed sweet smelling nectar puffs that attract pollinators like xenobees. When they rub again these puffs the spores sticks to it and thus can be spread to others. while similar to flowers they do not have any petals but are white and fluffy like a cotton ball. On the top of the higher cap are special shallow pores that allow Hikerflora inside. The Hikerflora get protected from the elements and nutrients from the shroom. In return the Hikerflora excrete excess sugar that helps the shroom grow larger and produce more berries than normal. The berries taste like strawberry lemonade. The yellow Hikerflora make the top cap appear golden and is why its called "royal". As detritivores they can live where ever there is rotting organic matter. However they do extremely well on herbivore dung. Their berries help attract them to defecate nearby. They have no pigment (except for their berries), thus their coloration is of whatever they are eating. This is typically black or brown.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ May 24 2023, 10:21 AM)
But if they just don't have a cap and are nothing but roots, herbivores don't even see them. So not even those with immunity can eat them.

Couldn't the berries by held out far from the body? so they can be plucked without getting too close.


Fixed to use long stalks away from the toxic caps.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ May 24 2023, 09:39 AM)
Asexual-only puts them at a disadvantage and makes the above-ground portion useless and vestigial altogether. Are you sure about this?

Having non-poisonous berries in addition to the poison would actually give them an advantage over other shrooms, as fauna can't just eat the whole thing.


I thought about that too but their caps still warn herbivores to not eat them. So it's not totally useless.

I originally drew them with berries but then thought it would be too risky for frugivores to eat without getting poisoned themselves.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ May 24 2023, 06:37 AM)
Feedback Round 2:

The “so much so” sentence can’t stand on its own, so the semicolon should be replaced with a colon.
“Root eating”: “root-eating”.
“Waxy shine. Which helps them”: “shine, which helps them”.
“Leaves. The leaves’”: “leaves, and the leaves’”.
“Half eaten”: “half-eaten”.
“Their leaves while not”: “Their leaves, while not”.
“Is important”: “are important”.
“It’s sweeter taste”: “its sweeter taste”.
“Falls of” :”fall off”.
“Release their spores”: “release its spores.”

There’s a recurring error of misplaced periods when other punctuation is appropriate and pronoun issues, so I suggest paying particular attention to that with future submissions. With these minor issues fixed, this should be ready for approval, assuming there are no objections to its rather humanoid orchid-tubers (yes, I'm going to say it).


Fixed.

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Poison Shrooms (Venenumfungi spp.)
Creator: Hydromancerx
Ancestor: Supershrooms
Habitat: Wallace, Koseman
Size: 10 cm to 20 cm Tall
Support: Cellulose
Diet: Detritivore
Respiration: Unknown
Thermoregulation: Ectotherm
Reproduction: Asexual Budding, Sexual Sticky Spores and Spore Berries, Hermaphroditic

The Poison Shroom genus group split from the Supershrooms genus group. They are a highly adaptable group which have spread to nearly all land biomes. As detritivores they can live where ever there is rotting organic matter. However they do extremely well on carcasses. This can in turn deter scavengers from eating such decayed carcasses. They are no so good at decomposing woody materials such as trees or plent bones. They come in a range of sizes and shapes. Unlike their ancestor they have developed poisonous tissues that range from mild poison to extremely poisonous. Their poison is less like Earth's poison mushrooms (phallotoxins) but more like Earth's poison dart frogs (tetrodotoxins). Their toxins are particularly deadly to carpoza species, but really anything with a nervous system is affected. They have developed bright colors and black splotches to warn of their poison. The possible colors spread across the rainbow but are always bright. Their stems no pigment. Their colored caps are resistant to UV light but their stems are not. Thus they do best in the shade but still can survive in direct sunlight. Being small and having large root system anchoring them, they don't have much issue with wind. They do well i most climates as long as it doesn't damage the toxins in their poison. They produce few berries on long stalks that are far away from their toxic caps. Before they produce sticky spores that can rub on the outside of scavengers like Dartirs. If a tip gets fertilized with contact from these sticky spores then it will produce the spore berries. Like their ancestors they are are highly resistant to disease and parasites. They are able to bounce back from any "plagues" with ease.

Is it talking from its cloaca ??

Love it! https://files.jcink.net/uploads2/sagan4/emotes/shroggers_small.png

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ May 23 2023, 08:00 PM)
Image:
The “beige hairy potato” look of its tubers sure is disturbing to look upon. What is with blackflora and occasionally disquieting shapes? Anyway, it’s hard to say whether that’s actually worth modifying.

Template:
For “support”, “Cellulose” can surely be assumed, not only because it’s a straightforward Earth-like configuration but because many descendants on the Sunstalk on Fermi have it.

Description:

“It is quick growing[…]soil around them”. The pronouns don’t match.
There should be a space after “them.” in that sentence.
“Dry season. So much so” The period should be a colon.

I checked whether staying dormant for 5 years makes sense. A quick check suggests that similar plants with long underground dormancy periods are though to get energy from fungal associations. I recommend finding a source on any Earth plants which do the same without a fungal association, or scaling down the dormancy period to, say, 2 years. (see: https://sercblog.si.edu/is-your-plant-dormant/)

“to help them retain moisture.” This suggests design, which is misleading. “Which helps them retain moisture” is better.

“Leaves lighter”: “leaves’ lighter”.

“to help”: “that help”.
“Herbivores. However”: I recommend merging the two with a comma and replacing “however” with “but”.

The description is sufficient, but small. Could you add more detail? Is it nutritious? Tender? How long does it take to grow to maturity? What conditions increase the likelihood of spore production? Are they prone to any parasites or illnesses? (If it’s long lived, grows by budding from the roots, and has no option for sexual reproduction, it probably does. The hot, dry weather of its habitats and Sagan 4’s limited diversity of parasites/diseases probably still makes this viable, though.) Do they all look like disquieting hairy potatoes?

Other Feedback:

Sunstalks are such a widespread, diverse, long-lasting, ecologically important lineage that they would probably deserve the title of “mascot flora”, or at least a dedicated sunstalks-descendant page separate from “Black Flora” on the group overview. (I’d do that myself, of course, but there are a lot of organisms to approve first.)

The “beige hairy potato” look of its tubers sure is disturbing to look upon. What is with blackflora and occasionally disquieting shapes?

It’s interesting to see it develop a grey color and black spikes. It’s like convergent evolution with Fermi desert-descended Sunstalk descendants.

P.S. @colddigger, do you have more to say about this submission? Surely it's worth more than a brief quote from the all-around celebrity robot Mettaton of the hit game Undertale.


Yes Black flora are known for their "testatos" //files.jcink.net/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Fixed.

Added more info

Such a cool face!

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Silvergrass (Argentisolis gramen)

Creator: Hydromancerx
Ancestor: Sunstalks
Habitat: Central Wallace Tropical Scrub, Central Wallace Veldt, Wallace Plains
Size: 80 cm Tall
Support: Cellulose
Diet: Photosynthesis
Respiration: Unknown
Thermoregulation: Ectotherm
Reproduction: Sexual, Hermaphroditic, Airborne Cylindrical Spores, Root Budding

The Silvergrass split from the sunstalk genus group. It can be found in the center of Wallace. They are quick growing in the wet season. They quickly soak up the moisture in the soil around them.Their large bulb roots store up energy for the dry season; so much so that they can even do dormant in the scorching summers. Bulbs can stay dormant for up to 2 years. The bulbs are starchy like Earth potatoes. They are an important food source for root-eating herbivores.

Their silver leaves are gray in color and have a waxy shine, which helps them retain moisture. While they can still produce airborne spores, they mainly reproduce though root budding. However they now reproduce sexually where the spores will fertilize in the air. Thus they synchronize their spore clouds to spring lunar cycles. The spore chamber is hidden in the center of the leave, and the leaves' lighter shade of gray helps them from overheating. Their stem has small thorns that help deter small herbivores, but as long as the bulb is untouched it can usually grow back its stem and leaves. Even half-eaten roots can sometimes regrow. Their leaves, while not the most nutritious, are important to many grazing herbivores. Newly grown grass is prized by grazers due to its sweeter taste. When the leaves die they turn white and fall off the bulb. In the spring before the leaves grown back the central spore chamber can release its spores unobstructed.

QUOTE (MNIDJM @ Feb 20 2023, 07:37 AM)
QUOTE (Hydromancerx @ Sep 16 2022, 11:09 PM)
Maturing in the first year, individuals live for 5 years, .
I fixed the typo but something seems like it got cut off here. Is anything missing?


Oh sorry no. Just bad copy pasta.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 05:19 PM)
QUOTE (Hydromancerx @ Jan 30 2023, 09:14 PM)
QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 05:10 PM)

"They actually do have 4 toes, its just the angle wasn't the easiest to depict it"
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This is is a bad angle too.


So your species does have 4 toes? they just aren't visible due to the angle?


Sure.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 05:10 PM)

"They actually do have 4 toes, its just the angle wasn't the easiest to depict it"
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This is is a bad angle too.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 04:11 PM)
I was going to say "yeah, but it looks like its just nothing but a ribcage"

And then I looked up a giraffe skeleton

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Turns out they also have pretty much just a ribcage for their entire torso. So I guess thats not a problem.


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It's more or less like a Gerenuk. Long limbs but the body is about the same as other antelope.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 30 2023, 04:17 PM)
Though i did notice that this guy still only have three digits on each limb, rather than the four seen in their direct ancestor. Plus there has been no mention in the description that describes a digit being lost. I also see that the skull is not that deep, would that potentially limit their diet to the softer parts of flora since i imagine a less deep skull means less powerful jaw muscles and thus a weaker bite.


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I only count 3 the ancestor.