I will leave them then. Larger is probably fine.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Aug 28 2022, 08:35 AM)

The thing is, by comparing the proportions of height to length, I ended up with these for current height. Male: 40 centimeters tall, 80 centimeters long Nocturnal Female: 80 centimeters tall, 1.6 meters long Diurnal Female: 80 centimeters tall, 1.5 meters long Unless you want them to be that big, i would recommend shrinking them down.

What do you recommend for their sizes?

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Aug 28 2022, 08:42 PM)

Last time I checked, using "primus" as the species name is discouraged due to overuse. You could probably use a name referencing finches or the fact it walks. "it's population boomed" is a typo. There's some choppiness here, too. Like several other submissions, I'll have to come back later. There have been so many submissions lately that some earlier ones haven't gotten sufficient attention.

Ok changed to "insulam" meaning "island"

QUOTE (colddigger @ Sep 7 2022, 11:17 AM)

" split from its ancestor Gloudgrass" misspelled ancestor "main stem-ball and is spongy and hollow." Not sure about the word and here " from the air but anchor it to" maybe put the word and here I think this is great, epiphytes are fun

Thanks. I think all fixed. Cloudgrass were perfect to evolve this from. I hardly had to change anything.

Arboreal Cloudgrass (Nimbaphyta tillandsiamimus)

Creator: Hydromancerx
Ancestor: Cloudgrass
Habitat: Spores: Atmosphere (Troposphere); Adults: Darwin Tropical Rainforest, Wallace Tropical Rainforest, Raptor Tropical Rainforest, Darwin Subtropical Rainforest, Dixon Subtropical Rainforest, Barlowe Tropical Rainforest, Barlowe Subtropical Rainforest, Time Subtropical Rainforest Archipelago
Size: 40 cm Tall
Support: Unknown
Diet: Photosynthesis, Aeroplanktivore (<2 cm)
Respiration: Unknown
Thermoregulation: Unknown
Reproduction: Sexual (Airborne Spores), Asexual (Macroscopic Binary Fission)

Arboreal Cloudgrass split from its ancestor Cloudgrass. It has come down from the atmosphere and lives in the treetops. Like Earth's Tillandsia (air plants) they live life in branches of other larger flora. Compared to life in the atmosphere it was much more hospitable despite not needing soil to grow.

The thin leaves collect sunlight and help reduce water loss. The main stem-ball is spongy and hollow. Its roots both help it collect water from the air and anchors it to the branches it sits on. It is a tangled mess that wraps around anything it can reach. On the outside of the stem-ball are its sticky tendrils that are used to feed on any aeroplankton.

No longer needing to float in the air it can store much more water than its ancestor could. This helps even in the dry season when rain isn't so abundant. Its vascular system has improved and helps move water and nutrients where they need to go.

Like its ancestor it can reproduce via airborne spores or macroscopic binary fission. The airborne spores are their main method since they can spread them high in the atmosphere. They only use asexual binary fission when there are no other arboreal cloudgrass nearby. If they sense spores of others then they will continue to release spores.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Aug 28 2022, 07:52 PM)

So is it Flinch or Phlinch?

oops! PH not F

QUOTE (colddigger @ Aug 28 2022, 07:48 PM)

This is Great, I love the island Finch name reference. "since they no longer to soar all day," missing word "They on nest on the ground" missing word "ground both die to lack of predators " wrong word "body is photosynthetic. Their wings " should use comma instead of period "Their wings in particular are nightly concentrated with". Wrong word Wonderful eight limbed beasty

Ok i think fixed.

Yes should be interesting to see that types of Phlinches will evolve from this.I hope this is general enough to evolve just about any type of niche from it.

Phlinch (Steineravis insulam)
Creator: Hydromancerx
Ancestor: Soaring Phlyer
Habitat: Sparks Tropical Beach, Steiner Tropical Beach Archipelago, Steiner Subtropical Beach Archipelago, Steiner Tropical Mangal, Steiner Subtropical Mangal, Steiner Tropical Rainforest, Steiner Tropical Rainforest Archipelago
Size: 1 m Long
Support:: Endoskeleton (Unjointed Wood)
Diet: Omnivore (Teacup Saucebacks, Vermees, Minikruggs, Silkruggs, Scuttlers, Xenobees, Xenowasps, Frabukis, Sunstalks, Supershrooms, Pioneeroots, Glaalgaes, Chitjorns), Scavenger, Photosynthesis
Respiration: Active (Lungs)
Thermoregulation: Heterotherm (Basking, Muscle-Generated Heat)
Reproduction: Sexual, Live Birth, Two Genders

The Phlinch split from its ancestor the Soaring Phlyer. It has come down from the atmosphere and colonized the islands of Steiner. As one of the first colonizers it didn't have to worry about predators and it's population boomed. Spreading to every island and nearly every biome expect for the drier parts.

It is now a generalist omnivore eating anything it can. Its wings are smaller since they no longer soar all day, just enough to hop from island to island. Most of the time they walk on the ground feeding. Their legs are less stubby than their ancestor due to the increase in ground feeding. They nest on the ground both due to lack of predators but also lack of trees. The flora on the islands are no bigger than 20 cm currently.

When they do fly the double wings use very little energy. While their entire body is photosynthetic, their wings in particular are highly concentrated with chloroplasts, which make them bright green. This helps them get the energy they need even on a diet of small things. Their keen eyesight looks out for prey or carrion that washes up on the beaches.

QUOTE (Cube67 @ Aug 27 2022, 08:03 PM)

The name in the topic title and the name in the actual post aren't the same. Is it the Plexgender or the Plehexgender?

Fixed. They are suppose to be called "Plexgender"

QUOTE (TheBigDeepCheatsy @ Aug 27 2022, 09:52 PM)

While I feel their size might be too big for them, I do like this idea overall!

How big do you think they should be? The ancestor was 80 cm tall

Instead of this ....

Size: Males: 80 cm Tall, 100 cm Long; Females: 160 cm Tall, 120 cm Long

How about this ....

Size: Males: 40 cm Tall, 50 cm Long; Females: 80 cm Tall, 60 cm Long

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Aug 20 2022, 09:43 AM)

"get's it's name" Gets its name. "radio active" Radioactive. "However the surrounding underground aquifer": this would sound more fluent with a comma after "however". The description is sparse. Can you add some details about the ecological effects of a radioactive aquifer? In real life, some trees have roots deep enough to tap into underground aquifers. Depending on the geology and depth of the natural reactors, it may be possible trees could pick up radioactive groundwater. It seems the deepest roots in the world, the roots of the shepherd's tree, can go 70 meters deep. (https://www.rutgers.edu/news/deep-roots-plants-driven-soil-hydrology) However, for this particular habitat, it seems improbable any roots could go that deep. This might provide interesting opportunities for microbes or even microscopic fauna.

Fixed and added.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Aug 27 2022, 06:22 PM)

Can you also give the length of these guys? I did that with my own species of Plehexapod because it helps clarify their exact dimensions. It’s the same reason why I do both wingspan and body length for flying creatures. Also I feel like these are a new genus, with the pinnae and all that.

Changed both

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Aug 27 2022, 05:33 PM)

I think you forgot to mention it serves to let them have a higher, more genetically healthy population in the same amount of space I'm already tempted to make a descendant that adds a third female type resulting in a stabilization into a rock paper scissors arrangement

Added.

And i look forward to you evolving these.

Plexgender (Pinnaeplenthexus genustribus)

Creator: Hydromancerx
Ancestor: Plehexapod
Habitat Wallance Dunes
Size: Males: 40 cm Tall, 80 cm Long; Nocturnal Female: 80 cm Tall, 160 cm Long; Diurnal Female: 80 centimeters Tall, 150 cm Long
Support: Endoskeleton (Jointed Wood)
Diet: Male: Omnivore (Vermees, Sapworms, Minikruggs, Desert Tilecorn eggs, Falcophreys eggs, Desert Carnofern berries, Sandy Orbibom berries and seeds, Bristlepile berries), Scavenger, Photosynthesis; Nocturnal Female: Carnivore (Pink Scrambler, Sabulyn, Undergroundi, Vermees, Sapworms, Minikruggs), Photosynthesis; Diurnal Female: Herbivore (Bangsticks roots, Coniflor roots, Desert Carnofern berries and leaves, Sandy Orbibom berries and seeds, Yuccagave leaves and seeds, Bristlepile berries and leaves, Sunstalks roots and leaves), Photosynthesis
Respiration: Active (Lungs)
Thermoregulation: Heterotherm (Basking, Muscle-Generated Heat)
Reproduction: Sexual, Three Genders, Pouch

The Plexgender split from its ancestor the plehexapod. It now lives in the oases in Wallance Dunes. These act like islands cutting them off from the rest of the population. As a result they developed sexual trimorphism; it serves to let them have a higher, more genetically healthy population in the same amount of space. Males are smaller and brightly colored. They are crepuscular, only active at dawn and dusk. Males are still omnivore but mostly scavenge carrion. This takes them away from the the oasises and thus spreading genetic diversity to the females who mostly stay at their home oasis. Males also will eat fruit when the season s right or even eggs when the opportunity presents itself.

Females on the other hand are now split into two types; nocturnal carnivores and diurnal herbivores.The night morphs have adopted large eyes to see in the dark and darker coloration to blend in with the darkness. Their beaks are more like an Earth bird of prey and can rip flesh easier. Their front claws are also sharper and body lighter and leaner. Their back legs are much stronger allowing them to sprint after prey. When they sleep they tend to be out in the open where they can photosynthesize.

The day morphs have a purple coloration to blend in with the purple flora. Their stomach has grown larger to help them digest flora better. Their beaks are stronger to chew the tough arid flora. Their front claw have grown bigger in order to help dig up roots. And its middle legs have spikes to fend off predators.

All sexes have improved spikes around their butt-nostrils, which keeps predators from suffocating them. They also have developed leaf-like earlobes to help funnel sound to their ears. Like their ancestor their skin is photosynthetic and they have a waxy coating on its skin helps reduce water loss as well as insulates it.

Both female's pouches are very stretchy, yet strong with elastic ribs Rather than building a nest for their young, the females simply do not give birth when they are fully developed. The female fills the organ that her young developed in with air so that they do not suffocate, she keeps her mouth open to let air flow in. Her young can poke their heads out of her mouth and beg for the food that her mate gives them, she will survive mainly on her fat during this time though her mate may feed her as well. Eventually she will force the offspring to leave, her jaw will often unhinge to make this difficult task a little easier. If she does not shove them out then they will grow too big for her and they will essentially explode out of her and kill her.

All juveniles are omnivorous and only narrow their diets when they reach adulthood. Juveniles that have left the pouch but haven't sexually matured tend to follow the more mobile males. Thus spreading them to different oases. Once grown the females will generally stay at whatever oasis they end up at. Depending upon the population at the oasis two morphs emit a pheromone suppressing the development into their morph to reduce competition and the stronger signal drowns out the weaker one. If they are not exposed to any pheromones they will default to herbivores.

Is there any competition with other flying fauna like the Rosybeak Phyler, Vermisnapper, Robynsnapper, Gryphler, etc. Basically bird-like flying plents and skysnappers.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Aug 18 2022, 04:40 PM)

"it's ancestor" "hollowed out" Hollowed-out. "webbed much like" there should be a comma after "webbed". "their tail", "their plumage", "their territory" Using "their" in the singular is such a common mistake in submissions that I'll have to add that to a common-mistakes guide, if I haven't already. I haven't edited that file in a while. "they are to females" This is mildly confusing, since preceding sentences don't explicitly mention it's the males who display. It could be worth mentioning: after all, in a few species, such as in phalaropes, it's the females that make mating displays and show mating season-related aggression. "roar. But sometimes". I know your descriptions tend to be choppy, but starting a sentence with "but" makes using a comma here particularly recommended. "The Vonnegut Quillmow are" Does "Quillmow" have an unusual plural? (Come to think of it, it might be handy to have an unusual-plural page on the wiki. For example, the Tusovendis, a purpleflora species, also has a nonstandard plural.) The "it's ancestor" error is still there. "one year of age and are fully grown at 2". Why swap out number forms twice in the same sentence? I recommnend using longhand for both for such small numbers.

I tried to fix what i could. And i believe the ancestor's description also uses "2" at the send of the sentence. So that might need to be fixed on the wiki.

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Quillmow

Glad to see this linage getting some love.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Aug 17 2022, 07:29 PM)

" it's ancestor" Its ancestor. Its quills seem to grow on its lower back and thighs, as well. "anything once.Like it's ancestor" There's a spacing error, and an "it's" confusion. "dig up food or break open rotten logs for food." This repeats "food" twice in the same sentence, which is awkward. "Even xeno-bee" That isn't hyphenated. "much like a polar bear" Did you mean "polar bear's", as in "polar bear's feet"? A spine shape? What is that? "predators such as the Sparkleshrog," There should be a comma after "predators". There's surely more. I'll have to come back later.

Thanks as always for this. It is appreciated. I think I fixed everything you pointed out.

Updated with new snozz

Vonnegut Quillmow (Arctohyus buhrabararamimus)

Creator: Hydromancerx
Ancestor: Quillmow
Habitat: Vonnegut Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Vonnegut Archipelago Subpolar Beaches, Vonnegut Temperate Woodland Archipelago, Vonnegut Bush Archipelago, Vonnegut Prairie Archipelago
Size: 2 Meters Long
Support: Unknown
Diet: Omnivore (Mainland Fuzzpalm roots and berries, Fuzzpile roots and berries, Floating Island Greatgrass roots, Driftwood Gumjorn roots, Raft-Building Cone Puffgrass cones, Cocobarrage roots, Obsidibend roots, Qupe Tree roots and fruit, Carnosprawl roots and fruit, Baebula roots, Supershrooms, Sapshrooms, Minikruggs, Silkruggs, Gamergate Gundis, Vermees, Teacup Sauceback larvae, Xenobee honey and larva, Xenowasps larva and honey, Hang-Gliding Pinyuk eggs, Shingo, Stegomizer juveniles, Driftwood Dasher juveniles), Scavenger
Respiration Active (Lungs)
Thermoregulation: Endotherm (Fur)
Reproduction: Sexual (Male and Female, Pouch and Milk)

The Vonnegut Quillmow split from its ancestor the Quillmow. Its quills only grow on its butt and are much thinner. It has grown much larger and has taken the niche of Earth grizzly bears. It is an opportunistic omnivore. It is not a picky eater and will try just about anything once. Like its ancestor it has a pig-like snout that can help it find food even underground. It will use its powerful claws to dig up food or break open rotten logs. Even xenobee hives are not off limits from them. Its feet are technically still webbed, much like a polar bear's however they do not swim as much as their ancestor. Their tail is no longer a paddle shape but quill shaped to supplements its butt quill defenses.

The Vonnegut Quillmow no longer create their own shelters but instead will evict fauna from theirs or even sleep in hollowed-out logs.They face their quilled butts at the entrance of the burrow so any predators, such as the Sparkleshrog, will think twice before coming after them when they are sleeping.

The Vonnegut Quillmow are even more solitary than their ancestors and only meet to mate. They no longer fight with their tusks but show off their butt quills like a peacock showing off their plumage. The larger more numerous the male's quills, the more attractive they are to females. Males will fight over territory and sometimes even control their own island. They mostly show mock charges and roar. Sometimes males will use their tusks and claws if the other male won't leave their territory.

After mating, the male will stick around and guard the female, preventing other males from trying to mate with her, though this is not always successful. The male will leave about a week after the joeys are born. The joeys are born fetal and helpless after just two weeks, but take as long as 4 months to develop sufficiently to leave the pouch. Their mother may leave them in a burrow nest, returning to feed them a few times a day. The juveniles become independent at one year of age and are fully grown at two.

QUOTE (Cube67 @ Aug 8 2022, 02:10 PM)

Was this inspired by the landmark I made in Beta or is it just a coincidence that we both made Oklo clones?

i haven't been following Beta and have had this on my todo list for a long time. so coincidence.

1. Nuclear reactor zones
2. Sandstone
3. Uranium ore layer
4. Granite

Nuke Natural Nuclear Fission Reactor
Creator: Hydromancerx
Location: Barlowe Water Table

A uranium deposit where a self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction is occurring. Like the Oklo site on Earth, Nuke Natural Nuclear Fission Reactor is a unique instance where just the right set of circumstances happen to allow for such a rare geologic circumstance to occur. The natural nuclear reactor formed when a uranium-rich mineral deposit became inundated with groundwater, which could act as a moderator for the neutrons produced by nuclear fission. The site gets its name "Nuke" from the region of Barlowe that used to have the same name (northeastern Barlowe). The site is underground around Barlowe Temperate Woodland. It is deep enough underground that the area is not radioactive. However, the surrounding underground aquifer is. The radiation would kill most species in the water table close to it. Farther away, it would provide a heat source for heat loving microbes.

Ok talked with Mnidjm and he is gonna make a transational species in this slot. It is moving locations and ancestor to the Purple Phlock. I edited my image accordingly and will repost in Gen 166 with it in the new location and new ancestor. Hopefully that will allow this to get approved then. So for now this submission is closed/postponed. However i specifically want this slot to be given to the transnational species.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 21 2022, 06:23 PM)

Hm, alright. That does make sense. So why are the horns addressed as antlers? Could you perhaps describe them as being antler-like instead?

I will fixed to state as "antler-like"

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 21 2022, 06:23 PM)

I think this is also a distinct genus from its ancestor.

Feel free to rename it to whatever you guys think it should be named.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 21 2022, 05:57 PM)

Also, for the shedding horn stuff. I would recommend looking at the Pronghorn antelope for reference, as it is the only ungulate that sheds their horns.

They don't shed their horns/beak..

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Jan 21 2022, 05:57 PM)

But would that provide it camouflage.

The argument is that there are only palm like leaves. But there are also other trees in the biome such as ...

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Mainland_Fuzzpalm

Which could cast a spotty shadow.

Or even ....

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Barnline

Not all plants there have straight line leaves.

EDIT: Or this ...

https://sagan4alpha.miraheze.org/wiki/Tlukvaequabora

The deer-like nature of this was for the old challenges. December was for Christmas style creatures. Thus the name and appearance.