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Coast/Mangal counts as 1 Flavour

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edited diet

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Oct 24 2022, 08:41 PM)
The habitats involved have four flavors. Unless you're using a wildcard, this is impossible, but that's a moot point because the coast is largely an underwater enviroment with no trees inherent to the habitat....unless, of course, you make these use Topship Fuzzpalms on Topship Shrog nests.

That does bring up the question of how it doesn't use Topship vessels to spread to more habitats, though, and unless it just ran out of food, couldn't handle environmental conditions on the journey, or got destroyed by Topship Shrogs or other topship symbiotes, it would likely have to be a wildcard anyway, since it would surely spread to other forested areas once the Topship Shrogs made landfall. Notably, Topship Shrog nests are much cleaner than most shrog nests, which would likely make it harder for Flying Oozes to get enough food when it separates from the parent organism.

Style of feeding is not normally listed in the diet, so "omnivore" is more suitable.
I recommend:
"Diet: Omnivore (Dartirs, Xenobees, Xenowasps), Detritivore". "Detritivore" would suggest species matters little, if at all, when it concerns the rotting material it eats. You can, however, specify it eats (or mainly eats) rotting fruit and leaf litter in the description, as that is a useful detail.

When you've updated it, make a post in this thread to alert others to the fact. If you edit the first post without telling anyone, it's hard to know there was an update.


Eliminated "desicated" from description.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Oct 18 2022, 12:42 PM)
" shoot stands vertical and dessicated" It's "desiccated", like "deflate".
Generally, plants with less water in them droop. That's why thirsty houseplants droop. You'd either have to elaborate on the mechanism here or change the description.


It doesn't rip it up much. If its small enough like nuts/berries, or a small kill, it would be whole.
But if its big, tearing off a piece of meat from a kill or a carcass is what it normally does.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Oct 17 2022, 08:37 PM)
Judging by the Ivy Thermoworm, is it the case that it collects food for its courtship cache whole, or doesn't rip it up much?


What are the Regalian Fossorundis? I can’t find that on the wiki

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The Central Koseman Rift Valley is a rift valley in the middle of the Koseman continent. Form from diverging tectonic plates. Millions of years in the future, a new inland sea will form between West Koseman and East Koseman as these landmasses separate further.

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: y
Art clear?: y
Gen number?: y
All limbs shown?: y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: y
Realistic additions?: y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: y
Creator?: y

Ancestor: y
Listed?: y
What changes?: size
External?: exoskeleton is thinker
Internal?:
Behavioral/Mental?: Bolder, don't burrow as much
Are Changes Realistic?: y
New Genus Needed?: (If yes, list why) n

Habitat:
Type?: 3
Flavor?: 2
Connected?: y
Wildcard?: n

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Within range?: y
Exception?:

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: yes
Does It Fit Habitat?: yes
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Transition Rule?: n
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Diet fits habitat :thumbsup:

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Description:
Length?: y
Capitalized correctly?: y
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Split
Other?:

Opinion: Approved;

Changed the description to hopefully work better. Describing it a “sprawling” instead of a direct reference.
Also had the shoot standing up be repeatable, not just a one-time thing.

The spores/spore casings are about 1mm big (about the size of a mustard seed).

And explained more about when the shoot would detach.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Oct 13 2022, 10:42 PM)
I'm not sure if a hydraulic mechanism in a flora physiologically comparable to an Earth plant can explain both standing up and shaking back and forth (presumably rapidly, for it to work as a noise deterrent). You could, however, say it causes the shoot to spring up, loudly rattling around spore packets in its quills, and then initiates (very slow) side-to-side motions. Remember: spores are very small, which might make it difficult for it to make a sufficiently strong and reliably-activating noise if shook just once.

It's odd that the shoot would detach immediately after the defense mechanism is activated just once. It seems a poor use of the flora's resources, unless only an overmature shoot full of mature spores can do this. Even that, though, is puzzling, unless the shoot is near-dead at that point and keeping it attached to the tuber would foster infection.

"a prostrate spurge" would sound more normal. On the wiki, since this is a reference to a somewhat obscure plant*, there would be a Wikipedia link, but you don't have to do that.


*It's actually a common weed distributed through most of the U.S., as well as parts of Canada. I presume it is "obscure" simply becauseAmericans are bad at identifying common local plants. (I have no clue about the statistics for Australia and other locations for Sagan 4 members.)

P.S. When quoting people, put the quote on the top of your reply, not the bottom.


QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Oct 13 2022, 10:18 PM)
To make this easier for HethrJarrod: it's ectothermic (its body depends on that of its surroundings).


:facepalm: can’t believe I forgot that. Thanks!


Apologies. Was thinking you were talking about something else when referring to alignment. Hopefully fixed now. And yes it has a sprawling habit.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Oct 12 2022, 09:11 PM)
It's good to see the art improved.

I think I've pointed this out multiple times: you have to align the template at the top with the order and spacing customs of the standard template. If you're having trouble keeping all the feedback in your head or referring to it while revising the submission, you can write it down in a checklist and work on bits and pieces of it over time.

"the reaction is cause by" The reaction is caused by. You'll need to elaborate on how such a conspicuous reaction can occur. The easiest thing to do is to downplay it by having the fauna unwittingly activate a hydraulic mechanism that causes noise: perhaps by dislodging and rattling little pieces of dried tissue inside its stem or in small structures hidden by its quills.

Remember, Quillfences don't have petals: it would be odd if they did, as they reproduce asexually. If you want to give the Moleroot in particular some flowering structures, and therefore petals, you can still do so, but I figure you just made a terminology mistake.

"another area ." There's a spacing error.

The description is on the short side. Given that, and the fact some paragraphs are only a single sentence, I recommend merging the description into two paragraphs. (The Moleroot[...]the next" and "When the Moleroot[...]scatter spores into the air".

"slowly move on": As it's a flora, it can't move much. A better word is: 'direct its growth to the next source'.

When you say, "the shoot rests on the ground", do you mean to say it naturally has a sprawling habit, like a prostrate spurge, and its shoots only flick up as a defense mechanism?


Revised artwork (filled in blank spots)

QUOTE (Jarlaxle @ Oct 12 2022, 02:37 AM)

You mean something more like this:
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Going by other depictions that use the cartoon standard cloud feather patterns, this might work better. I feel it clashes less with the toon style.




That looks a lot better imo

Made suggested changes.
Adjusted size.
Added a part to the description to lengthen it a bit, and removed references to iron.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Oct 9 2022, 06:40 PM)
Just a quick check...

Well, now the Moleroot has a very short description.
It still can't use iron as a source of energy. I recommend looking over previous feedback on how to give it a strong but biologically plausible association with iron.

Plants (or "flora", in this case) generally can't "escape" predators. That's why so many plants have passive defenses, like poisons or tasting bad. It would help to instead say that its tuber is a bigger proportion of its biomass, and it's deeper underground now, which makes it harder to dig up (although I don't recall if the Quillfence actually had any herbivores eating its tubers at time of evolution).


Can we get more detailed leaf image please?

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Oct 7 2022, 06:15 PM)
is "instinct" the correct term to use for an organism without a brain?


Yes. It is a term used with slime molds as well.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Oct 7 2022, 06:17 PM)
Is the size colony length or organism height?


individual length

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: y
Art clear?: y
Gen number?: y
All limbs shown?: n
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: y
Realistic additions?: y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: y
Creator?: y

Ancestor:
Listed?: y
What changes?: got smaller
[*]External?: wings not meant for soaring
[*]Internal?: y
[*]Behavioral/Mental?: y
[/LIST]Are Changes Realistic?: y
New Genus Needed?: n

Habitat:
Type?: 1
Flavor?: 2
Connected?: y
Wildcard?: n/a

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: n
Within range?: y
Exception?: n/a

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: n/a
Other?: n/a

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Transition Rule?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: n/a

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: n/a
Reasonable changes (if any)?: n/a
Other?: n/a

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: y
Other?: n/a

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: n/a
Other?: n/a

Description:
Length?: good
Capitalized correctly?:y
Replace/Split from ancestor?: split
Other?:
Opinion: approved

QUOTE (colddigger @ Oct 4 2022, 09:26 PM)
I'm not sure what the plasmoid is here.

"Size: 20cm to 50cm (individual plasmoid); 1-3 meter wide (colonies)"

I would have assumed the colony itself was the plasmoid, with many ooze cells combining into one mass of cytoplasm.



A plasmoid means coherent individual. The smallest group before it becomes just a bunch of cells.

As far as I know, up to Gen 145, these had not been integrated into other genuses.

While the calcium cycle is a major part of the ecosystem, I am not qualified enough to have it warrant a keystone status, unless another person wants to comment on it.

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Name: Aquaoozea

Integrated Species: Phamtophotus (135), Oogneerg (135), Spiroblast (135)
Ghostly Lumin (142), Crawling Luminuseven (122), Spherischla (135)

Habitat: Global (Sagan 4)
Size: Microscopic
Diet: Photosynthesis, Detrivore, Lithovore (Calcium, Calcite, Lime)
Respiration: Unknown
Support: Unknown
Thermoregulation: Unknown
Reproduction: Binary Fission

The Aquaoozea all descend from Luminuseven. They all inhabit aquatic environments such as rivers. The main characteristics of Aquaoozea are:
  • Photosynthesis- all members of Aquaoozea photosynthesize
  • Characteristic pseudopods that aid in movement
  • A general amorphous shape
Some Aquaoozea favor heavily on the amorphous shape while others focus on pseudopods. While all Aquaoozea photosynthesize, many of them are also detritivores, playing a part in the breakdown of calcium in the ecosystem. When they die, they release the calcium back into the environment.

Aquaoozeans also have a high number of instances of horizontal gene transfer, easily forming hybrid organisms.

Basically, my suggestion is to move the round thing away from the hip. Rabbits might have something similar but rabbits also don’t FLY.

The mechanism needs to be in the correct alignment for flapping to work

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 30 2022, 09:47 PM)
Do you plan to fix this? @HethrJarrod


I want this to be an organism that can be approved

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The circle would have to be much closer to the chest to work, imo

Otherwise it’s more like an insect’s flying than a bird’s flying

The gif helped incredibly more so than the diagram with the blue circle/red swoosh.

It works great in 2D space. Although… does it do the same in 3D space?

QUOTE (Jarlaxle @ Sep 26 2022, 05:42 AM)
QUOTE (HethrJarrod @ Sep 25 2022, 12:55 PM)
I’m not sure how the crank mechanism works

Do you have IRL examples of flying things that use this?



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This is a classic crank rocker mechanism, which is the common way to translate between rotational movement and rocking movement and vice versa.



Added more extensive Habitat and Diet

New artwork...
need some help with habitats and diet