QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 27 2022, 01:35 AM)

QUOTE (HethrJarrod @ Sep 27 2022, 01:27 AM) You have Types and Flavors mixed up. no he doesn't

A species may have up to 2 Types and up to 3 Flavors.

[quote]{2 Flavors (Rainforests, Woodlands), 3 Types (Tropical, Subtropical, Temperate)}[quote]

sorry if I'm just confused.

You have Types and Flavors mixed up.

I fixed the points you made but was not able to do much in other areas.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Sep 26 2022, 06:49 PM)

I'm back (at least briefly). "The Bristlekrugg are" (Plural error). "mandibles, that allow" The comma should be removed. Clearly, Bristlekruggs are white, so pointing that out in the description does seem superfluous. I recommend merging the paragraph starting with "These bristles" with the paragraph starting with "The Bristlekrugg". "behavior; grooming" should be: "behavior: grooming." "await the young bristlekruggs". You mean, "wait for the young bristlekruggs". I recommend merging "They will feed[...]" into the same paragraph as "after drifting[...]". "decent first meal..." The ellipsis should be replaced with a comma. You'll neeed to fill in that conspicuous white space near the bristle on the rear. Can you smooth out the black bristles into the grey parts so they blend in better? That they wait for the bristlekrugg eggs to hatch suggest they develop and hatch very quickly. The wet, warm conditions of the archipelago probably helps this.

should it have a different ancestor?

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 25 2022, 09:40 PM)

How are the rust microbes getting iron?

Iirc most parasitic rust microbes like this have the plant pull more iron from the soil.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 25 2022, 08:09 PM)

How did this disconnection evolve without going through a phase of not being able to transfer nutrients between the leaves and stem before the archimedean screw evolved?

It was originally a space that was able to hold water, extra nutrients.



The pathways to the top section were already there.

Then the rust microbes infected this reservoir. Cutting off the top part with the leaves from the rest of the stem. Because its new base was resting in a nutrient rich bath, the top part was able to survive.

Name: Windcatcher Plyent
Ligniflabellatus ventus

Creator: HeathrJarrod
Ancestor: Suncatcher Plyent
Habitat: Drake Bush, Artir Temperate Coast, Artir Temperate Mangal, Soma Temperate Mangal, Coolsteph Temperate Mangal
Size: 1.5 m tall
Support: Unknown
Diet: Photosynthesis
Respiration: Unknown
Thermoregulation: Unknown
Reproduction: Sexual, Airborne Spores, Two Genders


The most significant change that the Windcatcher Plyent from its ancestor, the Suncatcher Plyent, is that the top rotates. It spins around driven by the wind on an axis-stalk.

This axis-stalk rests in a chamber where the Windcatcher Plyent stores water to survive in the arid environment. Something its ancestor did not have. Some rust microbes infected this chamber, and disconnected the base of the axis-stalk. When the wind catches the leaves and spins the axis stalk, the rotation causes many things to happen.

The spinning of the axis-stalk draws up water to the leaves through a system of veins, acting like an archimedean screw. The rotation of the axis-stalk also causes the magnetic alignment of the rust microbes to be peturbed, causing an electric current to flow into the rust microbes, giving them enough energy for them to form glucose, which the windcatcher plyent uses as an additional source of energy.

Reproduction

Near the end of the windy season, the Windcatcher Plyent will stop spinning. It will then release airborne spores. These spores will land on other Windcatcher Plyents that have also stopped spinning. The leaves will fold up, creating a chamber around the fertilized spore, filling up with water, rust microbes, and nutrients.

During this time, while the new Plyent is growing, there is not a lot of wind.

When the new Windcatcher Plyent is large enough, its tip will poke through the top of the chamber. Just in time for the winds to pick up again. It's leaves will then unfurl, catch the wind, and start producing glucose for the rest of the Windcatcher Plyent. A particularly strong wind can lift the top two segments, where they will land and start growing into a new Windcatcher Plyent. For the Plyent left behind, the topmost segment will unfurl near the end of the windy season to begin the growing process anew.

Since the Doctor Pickle is part of 166, how does the submission process work?

I’m not sure how the crank mechanism works

Do you have IRL examples of flying things that use this?

Is this fully aquatic?

QUOTE (colddigger @ Sep 23 2022, 09:58 PM)

How are the hairs formed

The hairs are formed from the cellular flagella (I’m pretty sure)

bump

Edited size to reflect island dwarfism to 13mm

Another other comments / suggestions for this?

Hopefully I fixed it. Thanks

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 20 2022, 11:09 AM)

All the habitats in between must be listed. All species must be listed by name and I don't think it's gonna find shrews small enough to eat out there. Body length needs to be included.

Name: Albedophrey (Procellatherium marirex)
Creator: HethrJarrod
Ancestor: Coastwoodufo
Habitat: 3 Types:(Subpolar, Temperate) 3 Flavors:(Mangals, Ocean (Sunlight Zone), Beaches)
King Temperate Beach, King Temperate Coast, Always Temperate Mangal, Flisch Subpolar Coast, Flisch Subpolar Beach, Slarti Mangal, Artir Temperate Coast, Artir Temperate Beach, Artir Temperate Mangal, Soma Temperate Sea, Soma Temperate Beach, Soma Subpolar Coast, Soma Subpolar Beach, Soma Temperate Mangal, Soma Subpolar Mangal, Soma Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Soma Archipelago Supolar Beaches, Coolsteph Temperate Coast, Coolsteph Temperate Beach, Coolsteph Temperate Mangal, Darkov Subpolar Coast, Darkov Subpolar Mangal, Darkov Subpolar Beach, Blitz Subpolar Coast, Blitz Subpolar Beach, Blitz Subpolar Mangal, Maineiac Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Maineiac Temperate Mangal, Clayren Temperature Coast, Clayren Temperate Beach, Clayren Temperate Mangal, Itizz Temperate Coast, Itizz Temperate Beaches, Itizz Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Itizz Temperate Mangal, Abello Temperate Coast, Abello Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Abello Temperate Beach, Abello Temperate Mangal, Barlowe Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Anguan Temperate Coast, Anguan Temperate Beach, Anguan Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Barlowe Temperate Mangal, LadyM Temperate Ocean (Sunlight Zone), LadyM Subpolar Ocean (Sunlight Zone), North Jujubee Temperate Ocean (Sunlight Zone), North Jujubee Subpolar Ocean (Sunlight Zone)
Size: 1.3 m long, Wingspan: 3 m
Support: Endoskeleton (Chitin)
Diet: Omnivore (Cerulean Gillin, Scuttleball Gillfin, Royal Scylarian, Hullback, Diamond Pumpgill, Bigmouth Strainerbeak, Munchicanth, Pirate Waxface, Kakonat, Fatcoat, Tlukvaequabora (Berries), Tipsnapper, Umbersnapper, Minnosparrow, Scaled Srugeing, Maineiac Uktank, Srugeing, Metamorphling Gilltail, Cryobowler Srugeing, Ivy Thermoworm, Ferries (Berries), Topship Fuzzpalm (berries), Strainerbeak, Pygmy Hullback, Yellowstripe Gilltail, Plesican, Marine Glowsnapper, Plains Uktank, Green Uktank, Festive Uktank, Shailnitor), Scavenger
Respiration: Active (Unidirectional Macrolungs)
Thermoregulation: Endotherm (Feathers)
Reproduction: Sexual (Male and Female, Hard-Shelled Eggs)

This diverged from Sausophrey taking up a marine lifestyle and becoming omnivorous. It is not afraid to try to steal food from other predators and will even steal kills from Wolvershrogs. Most of its time is spent in the North Jujubee Ocean, flying around the coasts and occasionally resting on Topship Fuzzpalms.

The wings are now narrow and long in order to support an active soaring lifestyle as opposed to the passive method their ancestor used. They now have a flap of skin that is used as a pouch for carryng food. It has a special gland that processes oils in its diet, with which the Albedophrey uses to make its feathers waterproof, similar to a duck or other waterfowl. It will occassionally dive into the water to grab onto a juicy looking Gillfin or other prey.

To prepare for mating, the male Albedophrey will collect all manner of food. It will store them in a pouch on its chest, taking it back to its nest site. The female will pick the male with the meal she likes best. They will feast and then mate. Sometimes not all of the food will be eaten, causing a few organisms to spread between continents. The Ivy Thermoworm has spread to the Always Temperate Mangal and Maineiac Temperate Mangal in this way. If they feel a threat is approaching their nest, they will attack the intruder with an aggressive display.

Otherwise it is like its ancestor.

Maybe something like the Ferrotine uses?

“There are few other differences between the ferrotine and their ancestor, there coloration has changed some and due to the iron rich biome it now lives in the ferrotine has a "cell wall" which actually is just a way to store the iron so they do not overdose on it.

I figure the ancestor, Copperhead, did it the same way

“Unlike it’s ancestor, which stored excess copper across its cell wall, which hindered its ability to absorb sulfur, it concentrates it at the top of the cell.”.

Lahnbush

• Descendant of one of the Lahnworms/Thermoworms
• instead of burying itself, it buries its head and stands vertically
• Segmented Body that grows as it gets older
• Only the last segment has the leaves, which fall off when a new segment grows
• these stumps allow the male to climb up to the cloaca

Coppertop (Aeramentus eanasir)
Creator: HethrJarrod
Ancestor: Octhermas (Copperhead lineage)
Habitat: Otter Vents
Size: 50 μm wide
Support: Cell walls
Diet: Electrosynthesis (Thermoelectric)
Respiration: Anaerobic (Sulfur)
Thermoregulation: Ectotherm
Reproduction: Asexual (Binary Fission, Endospores), Horizontal Gene Transfer


Coppertops form mats of cells in cracks around hydrothermal vents. Here, they use the sulfur to dissolve the rock, and over many years create elaborate cave systems, sealed off from the outside. In these caves, a Coppertop colony will nearly completely cover the roof and floor of the cave with a sulfuric acid in between. Thanks to the high temperatures and acidic fluid, a Coppertop colony can generate the small amount of energy it requires from the heat, the cells that are receiving this energy are producing some form of food molecule that they then share with the rest of the colony

Life cycle of the Coppertop cell:

The coppertop cell begins its life as an endospore, made inside of its parent cell. This endospore helps transfer free electrons from the copper infused cell wall to mitochondria in the cell via conductive nanofilaments that cover its spore coat. When the adult cell dies, the spores are released to be free floating particles into the colonial chamber. During this release period two layers of protective protein, acting as extra insulaton from the heat as well as together having thermoelectric properties, are added to the endospores to cover them and their nanofilaments; The nanofilaments becoming sandwiched between the layers.

The thermal conductivity between the components in an Endospore drastically differs from each other. Although the entire colony is rather hot due to proximity to hydrothermal vents, there is still a "warm" and "cool" side to the hollow inside the colony, this gradient in temperature only increasing in age and size of the group. While the free-floating endospores (now able to play the role of the metabolically dormant caste "thermoplast" in the colony) spends time on the hot side of the chamber in contact with the tiny copper plates of active cells the outer layer of thermoelectric proteins will quickly rise in temperature, while the inner layer heats up more slowly due to having a higher "specific heat capacity". The structure of the outer protein layer will shift at a particular temperature, which in turn makes attachment points available. A third, and quite stable, insulation protein then latches onto the outer layer of the free-floating endospore in order to prevent that component from losing its temperature as quickly as the rest. Once the Endospore is coated with this insulating protein it becomes a functioning Thermoplast.

The Thermoplasts then move to the cold side of the Coppertop colony, releasing excess electric charge generated by the flow of heat between the two protein layers via the Seebeck Effect. The electric charge created across this temperature gradient is transferred by the conductive nanofilaments between the two layers to the copper infused cell wall belonging to Coppertops at the cold side of the colonial chamber, and the spores located there. When the nanofilaments brush along the cell walls, they not only exchange free electrons, but lose the coat of insulating protein as they cool down and their proteins shift in structure again, the temperature gradient disappearing. . Due to Brownian Movement they will then go back to the hot side of the colony chamber to regain a temperature gradient, pick up more free electrons and insulating protein. Eventually, the Thermoplasts lose their protective protein coating, and become sessile adults, adhering to the walls of the colony chamber, and beginning production of their own endospores.


Dispersal

When the output of a vent begins to deplete, the Coppertop colony will send out a massive amount of spores, These spores are ejected by the vent into the ocean. Here, the spores go dormant for long periods of time, until they find a habitat hot enough. Due to temperature in the open waters surrounding the vents the spores have a tendency of forming small clumps. Once these clumps are settled, they are able to use their spore coats as an initial energy source in order to power themselves until the formation of their first chamber.

That's from the nimbus cloud ancestor...

and its descendants use similar terminology.

Greeny Nimbuscloud: The greeny nimbuscloud split from its ancestor, its colonies now clump on the wing branches of the maternal hiveballoon

Hanging Nimbuscloud: The hanging nimbuscloud split from its ancestor and now clings to the zeploons,

Sea Fog: The hooks that hold them together also hold on to bubbles when underwater, and drops of water when above; those drops dry-out and leave their nutrients behind.

Seambus: They float easily because of their long complex arms and hold on to the water drops using small hooks much like their ancestors.

Nimbus Fog: While clouds can grow to a meter or so across with millions of individuals they are still microscopic in size and they each hook together to help the cloud avoid dispersal.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 12 2022, 12:27 PM)

From the description it sounds more like feather barbs than random tentacles now.

From Nimbus Cloud:
The nimbus cloud split from its ancestor via a mutation that caused the nimbus feathers to stick onto each other.



Most of the descendants of Nimbus Clouds have these hooks. I don't see a contradiction that you speak of.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 12 2022, 11:04 AM)

The ancestor's description suggests it's just like all nimbuses but building on a pile of dead ones. What you depicted is something heavier and anatomically different which would contradict the description of it weighing almost nothing.

I don't think that it is biologically considerably different from its ancestor

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 12 2022, 10:36 AM)

This also does not make sense as a diversification of its ancestor, as it is biologically considerably different.

Ok... I added two additional depictions

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 12 2022, 09:40 AM)

A genus group must have a minimum of 3 species depicted.

Groundclouds (Comaventi spp.)

Creator: HeathrJarrod
Habitat: Global
Size: 5mm to 50mm tall
Support: Unknown
Diet: Photosynthesis
Respiration: Unknown
Thermoregulation: Unknown
Reproduction: Asexual, Spores

The Desert Groundcloud diversified into the Groundcloud genus. Its ancestors came to be when nimbus clouds had fallen to the ground and managed to survive there. Like their ancestors, Groundclouds live in colonies that can grow to huge proportions, yet weigh next to nothing. All of the Groundclouds have burr-like hooks at the end of their feathery tendrils. When the Groundcloud individual touches a surface, the touching tendril will curl up, securing its hold. Groundclouds can be found attached to the sides of trees, large stones, and the skin of fauna. They can attach to each other on the surface of non-moving water.

When conditions become extreme, comaventi form an endospore. At that time, the hooks become brittle and easy to break, sending the dormant comaventi individual to a new location. The feathery filaments also allow for a limited form of DNA swapping between members of a Groundcloud colony. If a mutation or infection occurs in one individual, this swapping cannot take place, isolating the member.

Can you temporarily graveyard this for the time being