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I'm frankly suspicious of the whole tooth concept. Why couldn't the jaw have simply deepened to account for the teeth? Why not grooves for the teeth to slide into like a saber-toothed cat? Both of those solutions are present in nature, but there aren't any real organisms with bottom teeth that poke through the top jaw, which leads me to believe that it's a less likely outcome to evolve.

Yes, there are in fact real animals that do that. I forgot the name, though.

If you're thinking of the babirusa, that's the top teeth coming out of the top jaw, not the bottom teeth. I'd say it's a different situation from here due to the fact that the babirusa's tooth is only piercing through flesh (not bone) and is rooted to the same structure that it pierces through.

no I'm thinking of an extinct reptile or something with long lower tusks that poke through the snout literally exactly like this species

'twas brought up and resolved in discord but i thought i'd post it here:
a weird dead amphibian called Mastodonsaurus does this same thing, apparently. I'd actually bet that Ovi based this creature off of it, at least for the tooth part. Nature is weird.

This post has been edited by Cube67: Aug 1 2022, 04:09 PM

QUOTE (Cube67 @ Aug 1 2022, 08:09 PM)

'twas brought up and resolved in discord but i thought i'd post it here: a weird dead amphibian called Mastodonsaurus does this same thing, apparently. I'd actually bet that Ovi based this creature off of it, at least for the tooth part. Nature is weird.

Yeah I based the teeth on that, I think there are also several kinds of deep sea fish that also do that trick.

This post has been edited by OviraptorFan: Aug 1 2022, 06:21 PM

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: Y
Art clear?: Y
Gen number?: Y
All limbs shown?: Y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: Y
Realistic additions?: Y

Name: Pierced-Snout Feef
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: (Perforodontosaurus palunatans)
Creator?: OviraptorFan

Ancestor: Chromofeef
Listed?: Y
What changes?:

• External?: Larger in size, holes in upper skull allowing lower teeth to poke through w/o injury, stripes
• Internal?: Omnivory, Capable of changing urea levels, 3 different kinds of glands to buffer salt levels
• Behavioral/Mental?: N/A

Are Changes Realistic?: Y
New Genus Needed?: (If yes, list why) Already taken care of

Habitat: Yokto Montane River, Yokto Subpolar Stream, Yokto Subpolar Riparian, Yokto Bog
Type?: 2/3
Flavor?: 2/3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?: No

Size: 50 cm
Same as Ancestor?: No, see External Changes
Within range?: Yes
Exception?: No

Support: Endoskeleton (Bone)
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Diet: Omnivore
Same as Ancestor?: N
Transition Rule?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:

Respiration: Active (Lungs)
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Thermoregulation: Ectotherm
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Maybe???
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Reproduction: Sexual, Two Genders, Frog-Like Eggs
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Description:
Length?: Short, but it explains what actually changed.
Capitalized correctly?: Y
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Replace
Other?:

Status: Pending(Just needs some elaboration on how it handles the cold temperature)

Hm, would having anti-freeze proteins in their blood work as an adaptation to the cold?

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Aug 25 2022, 07:31 AM)

Hm, would having anti-freeze proteins in their blood work as an adaptation to the cold?

Seeing how it is subpolar, yes.

QUOTE (TheBigDeepCheatsy @ Aug 25 2022, 11:04 PM)

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Aug 25 2022, 07:31 AM) Hm, would having anti-freeze proteins in their blood work as an adaptation to the cold? Seeing how it is subpolar, yes.

Alright, added it in.

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: Y
Art clear?: Y
Gen number?: Y
All limbs shown?: Y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: Y
Realistic additions?: Y

Name: Pierced-Snout Feef
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: (Perforodontosaurus palunatans)
Creator?: OviraptorFan

Ancestor: Chromofeef
Listed?: Y
What changes?:

• External?: Larger in size, holes in upper skull allowing lower teeth to poke through w/o injury, stripes
• Internal?: Omnivory, Capable of changing urea levels, 3 different kinds of glands to buffer salt levels
• Behavioral/Mental?: N/A

Are Changes Realistic?: Y
New Genus Needed?: (If yes, list why) Already taken care of

Habitat: Yokto Montane River, Yokto Subpolar Stream, Yokto Subpolar Riparian, Yokto Bog
Type?: 2/3
Flavor?: 2/3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?: No

Size: 50 cm
Same as Ancestor?: No, see External Changes
Within range?: Yes
Exception?: No

Support: Endoskeleton (Bone)
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Diet: Omnivore
Same as Ancestor?: N
Transition Rule?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:

Respiration: Active (Lungs)
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Thermoregulation: Ectotherm
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Has anti-freeze proteins that protect it from freezing to death
Other?: N/A

Reproduction: Sexual, Two Genders, Frog-Like Eggs
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Description:
Length?: Short, but it explains what actually changed.
Capitalized correctly?: Y
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Replace
Other?:

Status: Approved