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I guess my only question right now is how does this affect other nest-building tams in its area, unless there aren't any others?

The others have simpler nests that don't take as long to make.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Aug 2 2022, 12:15 PM)

The others have simpler nests that don't take as long to make.

Note taken

An odd pity that only one Shrog (IIRC) actually established itself in the Barlowe region.

Ooh, an amphibious sauceback. Excellent. I really like the design of this one, though I notice one error in the second paragraph, based on a contradiction between the first and last sentence:

"Much like its ancestor, the mangal sauceback has dramatic mating practices. It is fertile throughout the year, though it hibernates over winter in the temperate part of its range."

"Like its ancestor, the mangal sauceback is fertile throughout the year, but unlike its ancestor, it does not hibernate."

The last sentence seems to repeat the first, but changes the bit about hibernation.

ah, I decided it shouldn't hibernate after writing and forgot to remove all mentions of it. Fixing now.

The description here says that echolocation is "mostly ineffective" in the water. Is this just because of the biome this organism lives in? Because, while mangal and riparian biomes do inhibit sonar somewhat, it's still a very useful sense to have in the water (especially for an organism that cannot see).

The sonar is made for use in air and not water. I don't think a bat can echolocate while submerged.

Would it take very long to adapt to use it in water? I wouldn't expect much necessary difference other than the frequency used. https://www.encyclopedia.com/plants-and-ani...tion-physiology That said, this site says echolocation of a given resolution in air would need to be five times higher frequency in water, so maybe that's too significant of a difference to alter in one generation anyway.

I do think that the bat underwater thing is a false analogy, though, as bats are not adapted to hunt in water and probably don't want to be put there.

Drat, now I am torn between my love of Shrogs and my love of saucebacks that have four jaws.

Personal investment aside, this looks great and I am glad to see their lineage spreading.

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: Y
Art clear?: Y
Gen number?: Y
All limbs shown?: Y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: Y
Realistic additions?: Y

Name: Mangal Sauceback
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: (Conodenticulus glabernasus)
Creator?: Disgustedorite

Ancestor: Fourmaw Sauceback
Listed?: Y
What changes?:

• External?: Skin covering the maws, longer maws with more small teeth, left-right undulation, twice its ancestor's size
• Internal?: Relies more on touch than echolocation
• Behavioral/Mental?: Aquatic Lifestyle

Are Changes Realistic?: Y
New Genus Needed?: (If yes, list why) Already taken care of

Habitat: Fly Tropical Beach, Hydro Tropical Beach, Oz Subtropical Beach, Time Subtropical Beach, Time Archipelago Subtropical Beaches, Abello Temperate Beach, Abello Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Anguan Temperate Beach, Anguan Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Barlowe Tropical Mangal, Oz Subtropical Mangal, Time Subtropical Mangal, Abello Temperate Mangal, Barlowe Temperate Mangal, Ittiz Temperate Mangal, Ittize Temperate Beach, Ittiz Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Nergali Subtropical Beach, Nergali Subtropical Mangal, Clayren Temperate Beach, Clayren Temperate Mangal, Clayren Archipelago Temperate Beaches, Fly Tropical Coast, Hydro Tropical Coast, Time Subtropical Coast, Oz Subtropical Coast, Anguan Temperate Coast, Abello Temperate Coast, Ittiz Temperate Coast, Nergali Subtropical Coast, Clayren Temperate Coast
Type?: 3/3
Flavor?: 3/3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?: N/A

Size: 8 cm
Same as Ancestor?: No, see External Changes
Within range?: Yes
Exception?: No

Support: Endoskeleton (Chitin)
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Diet: Adult: Carnivore; Larvae/juvenile: Detritivore
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Transition Rule?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:

Respiration: Active (Microlungs)
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Thermoregulation: Adult: Endotherm (Feathers); Larvae: Ectotherm
Same as Ancestor?: N
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: Y, stopped hibernating
Other?: N/A

Reproduction: Sexual (Male and Female, Eggs and Larvae)
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Description:
Length?: Colorful description and clever way to spread them out.
Capitalized correctly?: Y
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Split
Other?:

Status: Approved