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The description is very small. Can you elaborate on them? You could talk about the sorts of things it likes to hide under, whether it's diurnal or nocturnal, any soil preferences for egg-laying, or the particular predators it has, and how effective its defenses are against each. You could also talk about what kind of detritus it likes most: well-rotted carcasses, logs, leaves, or flowers, perhaps. Does it hiss just once, or repeatedly if disturbed?
In retrospect, I'm surprised kruggs have specified cloacal segments, and not spiracles.
There's a comma after "South Darwin Subtropical Woodland".

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Sep 7 2022, 03:17 PM)

The description is very small. Can you elaborate on them? You could talk about the sorts of things it likes to hide under, whether it's diurnal or nocturnal, any soil preferences for egg-laying, or the particular predators it has, and how effective its defenses are against each. You could also talk about what kind of detritus it likes most: well-rotted carcasses, logs, leaves, or flowers, perhaps. Does it hiss just once, or repeatedly if disturbed? In retrospect, I'm surprised kruggs have specified cloacal segments, and not spiracles. There's a comma after "South Darwin Subtropical Woodland".

Ok added a little bit more info.

"usually: well-rotted carcasses" This has no need for a colon.
"like its ancestor strategy": You probably meant: "Like its ancestor, its reproductive strategy".

Otherwise, everything looks good. The description is short for post-revival Alpha entries, but not conspicuously so. It's a bit odd it doesn't live in Raptor Tropical Rainforest, since it surely has plenty of food and good egg-laying sites, is contiguous with its other habitats, and it lives in a huge strip of rainforest/woodland habitats. However, it's not actually necessary to expand there.
The respiration of the krugg lineage should be elaborated upon at some point, but the missing information doesn't seem so significant as to substantially delay the approval of this organism. Respiration would certainly be worth figuring out if it were, say, 1 m long, but at 10 cm falls within the size of a large giant weta on Earth, so it's plausible even if it uses roachlike respiration.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Sep 8 2022, 05:56 AM)

"usually: well-rotted carcasses" This has no need for a colon. "like its ancestor strategy": You probably meant: "Like its ancestor, its reproductive strategy". Otherwise, everything looks good. The description is short for post-revival Alpha entries, but not conspicuously so. It's a bit odd it doesn't live in Raptor Tropical Rainforest, since it surely has plenty of food and good egg-laying sites, is contiguous with its other habitats, and it lives in a huge strip of rainforest/woodland habitats. However, it's not actually necessary to expand there. The respiration of the krugg lineage should be elaborated upon at some point, but the missing information doesn't seem so significant as to substantially delay the approval of this organism. Respiration would certainly be worth figuring out if it were, say, 1 m long, but at 10 cm falls within the size of a large giant weta on Earth, so it's plausible even if it uses roachlike respiration.

Fixed and added Raptor Tropical Rainforest. I just missed that. A lot of biomes to sort through.

I'm curious, if they're not poisonous, then how does the coloration ward off predators? Are they mimicking an actual poisonous species?

Other than that, I really like the colors, as they contrast with each other very nicely, with the orange being all the more vibrant due to the darker hues of the front half. Also, since they have spiracles, you can list that as their method of respiration.

Spiracles alone are not a respiration method.

Sorry, my bad.

QUOTE (Nergali @ Sep 8 2022, 05:17 PM)

I'm curious, if they're not poisonous, then how does the coloration ward off predators? Are they mimicking an actual poisonous species? Other than that, I really like the colors, as they contrast with each other very nicely, with the orange being all the more vibrant due to the darker hues of the front half. Also, since they have spiracles, you can list that as their method of respiration.

Bright warning colors like yellow or orange contrasting with black usually means they are poisonous. Other actual poisonous Sagan 4 species have done this in the past.

This post has been edited by Hydromancerx: Sep 9 2022, 09:51 AM

While highly contrasting colors generally indicate an animal is poisonous, or imitating a poisonous animal, it can also simply be a signal it's highly aggressive. Norway lemmings are believed to have contrasting orange colors as an aposematic signal. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway_lemming) Badgers and ratels ("honey badgers") are said to have aposematism because they are highly aggressive and well-armed.

The warning only works if there's something with the same appearance that actually is poisonous. Fauna are smart and learn that orange doesn't mean poison and they eat it.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 9 2022, 10:02 AM)

The warning only works if there's something with the same appearance that actually is poisonous. Fauna are smart and learn that orange doesn't mean poison and they eat it.

I changed them to be mildly poisonous.

Did the name get changed?
I thought it was hissing hrugg

I thought that was fun

QUOTE (colddigger @ Sep 9 2022, 10:30 AM)

Did the name get changed? I thought it was hissing hrugg I thought that was fun

I messed up on the forum thread title. Was always suppose to be "Krugg"

So this is actually kind of a big deal submission given the spiracle statement in the description.

In the event insect-style respiration won't work, you might be able to make them connected to the gut or air sacs instead, or perhaps work similarly to the spiracles of vertebrates, like sharks.