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So uh, a redraw of the Beach Cheekhorn is coming soon. It might help clarify some bits of its anatomy and thus might be important to consider for this guy.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Sep 8 2022, 12:34 AM)

So uh, a redraw of the Beach Cheekhorn is coming soon. It might help clarify some bits of its anatomy and thus might be important to consider for this guy.

Your redraws are not canon or definitive.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Sep 7 2022, 09:34 PM)

So uh, a redraw of the Beach Cheekhorn is coming soon. It might help clarify some bits of its anatomy and thus might be important to consider for this guy.

Well i looked at it's ancestor too. Thus the chin spikes looking for like the older one.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 8 2022, 01:46 AM)

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Sep 8 2022, 12:34 AM) So uh, a redraw of the Beach Cheekhorn is coming soon. It might help clarify some bits of its anatomy and thus might be important to consider for this guy. Your redraws are not canon or definitive.

Dorite, the whole point of the redraws is to clarify the anatomy of the taxa, hence why I review them with the creators to make sure they are accurate. But that moves away from the species at hand.

I will say that I feel like the cheekhorns on this fella look a little too much like bony horns, BUT you could possibly either redraw them to look more keratinous OR possibly have it that the cheekhorns are actually a braided pair for each "horn" (If that can even work)?

Looking again, that head does seem rather small for its diet, might need to make it a little bigger. Maybe use guanaco and giraffe for further reference.

QUOTE (TheBigDeepCheatsy @ Sep 8 2022, 12:44 AM)

I will say that I feel like the cheekhorns on this fella look a little too much like bony horns, BUT you could possibly either redraw them to look more keratinous OR possibly have it that the cheekhorns are actually a braided pair for each "horn" (If that can even work)? Looking again, that head does seem rather small for its diet, might need to make it a little bigger. Maybe use guanaco and giraffe for further reference.

They are still just a modified quill. The unicorn-like shape is for strength (and style since it's supose to be like a Quilin).

The body side lf is actually small its only the neck and limbs that are so huge. Stretched out lanky boii..

I like it, has a very noble quality to it, given its sleek and elegant appearance. And speaking of giraffes, given the elongated state of the neck of this species, I could see more gracile and taller descendants of this evolving to exploit higher up flora.

Also here is an important question, how is the fur of the Quillyn blue? If I recall correctly, mammals(which furred shrews in modern times are pretty much an analogue to in many respects) can't really have blue fur, with the closest color being stuff like purpule. With that in mind, how does your Quillyn get around this problem and have blue fur, or alternatively, why not it be a different distinct color like a bright red or violet?

Also the torso is way too short, its a problem in the original artwork of the cheekhorns as well, as it means they have no room for guts at all.

QUOTE (Hydromancerx @ Sep 8 2022, 11:58 AM)

QUOTE (TheBigDeepCheatsy @ Sep 8 2022, 12:44 AM) I will say that I feel like the cheekhorns on this fella look a little too much like bony horns, BUT you could possibly either redraw them to look more keratinous OR possibly have it that the cheekhorns are actually a braided pair for each "horn" (If that can even work)? Looking again, that head does seem rather small for its diet, might need to make it a little bigger. Maybe use guanaco and giraffe for further reference. They are still just a modified quill. The unicorn-like shape is for strength (and style since it's supose to be like a Quilin). The body side lf is actually small its only the neck and limbs that are so huge. Stretched out lanky boii..

I understand the aesthetic you are trying for, but I still feel like the unicorn-like shape should be explained as either the quill spiraling or as duplicated quills braided together (If that sort of thing could work). That way, you can keep the unicorn shape without any newcomers confusing the quills for bony horns.

I mean...they can also evolve a boney core. There's no reason they can't. Shrogs did it.

True!

But depending on how long the bony core is, that would require more neck muscle and/or a bigger/sturdier head.

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Sep 8 2022, 07:16 PM)

Also here is an important question, how is the fur of the Quillyn blue? If I recall correctly, mammals(which furred shrews in modern times are pretty much an analogue to in many respects) can't really have blue fur, with the closest color being stuff like purpule. With that in mind, how does your Quillyn get around this problem and have blue fur, or alternatively, why not it be a different distinct color like a bright red or violet? Also the torso is way too short, its a problem in the original artwork of the cheekhorns as well, as it means they have no room for guts at all.

Assuming we need to obey real-world logic for this, instead of acknowledging the fact it's an alien that strongly resembles a mammal, then it could be structural coloration, incorporation of pigments that do not exist on Earth into its hair a la flamingos and their feathers with their diet of crustaceans, or both. The color brings to mind cryoflora, and the plants one eats can somewhat alter skin color in mammals (humans, specifically). However, it doesn't eat cryoflora.

https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2007...he-physics-of-s


Just do a blue feather

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Sep 8 2022, 05:16 PM)

Also here is an important question, how is the fur of the Quillyn blue? If I recall correctly, mammals(which furred shrews in modern times are pretty much an analogue to in many respects) can't really have blue fur, with the closest color being stuff like purpule. With that in mind, how does your Quillyn get around this problem and have blue fur, or alternatively, why not it be a different distinct color like a bright red or violet? Also the torso is way too short, its a problem in the original artwork of the cheekhorns as well, as it means they have no room for guts at all.

1. They are carpozoa which if you recall mastered pigmentation early on. I had this in mind when creating them. Their pigment cells should be extremely complex compared to Earth mammals. Think of it as if mammals had cepholopods as ancestors.

2. I did have a couple other ideas when making it before i realized they were carpozoa. One was to have them eat glass flora to get the blue pigmentation. Another was to use the juice of the blue colored berries that they love to eat. And another was to have the hairs use light diffraction like butterfly wings or blue eyes in humans.. I still feel them inheriting the carpozoa pigment cells is a much similar method to these.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 8 2022, 08:50 PM)

I mean...they can also evolve a boney core. There's no reason they can't. Shrogs did it.

I don't feel it needs to but if you guys think it's implausible without it then i would be on with that.

This post has been edited by Hydromancerx: Sep 9 2022, 09:48 AM

QUOTE (colddigger @ Sep 9 2022, 12:10 PM)

https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2007...he-physics-of-s Just do a blue feather

Fur can't exactly do that if i recall correctly, since that structure is specifically seen in feathers.