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Symbiopouruses (Symbiotrispourus spp.)

Creator: Hydromancerx
Ancestor: Hexpouruses
Habitat: Global (Sagan 4)
Size: 1 to 10 mm Wide
Support: Unknown
Diet: Consumer (Symbiotic with host flora)
Respiration: Unknown
Thermoregulation: Unknown
Reproduction: Binary Fission

The Symbiopouruses genus group split from the hexspouruses genus group. Their multicellular grouping of a few cells is similar to its ancestor, however it has specialized cells at the front and back. At the front it has cilia which to bring in food into its oral grove. At the back are flagellums which help it propel itself towards food. Like their ancestor they reproduce through binary fission. What sets them apart from their ancestor is that they are obligate symbionts that can be found in many species of flora, most heavily among the purple flora.

Symbiopouruses get a benefit from being safe from UV light and extreme temperatures. Safe inside the flora, they don't have to compete for resources with other microbes. This doesn't cost the host flora much energy so it can keep growing healthy. They colonize the leaves and reproductive organs such as flowers. That way they can be incorporated into the embryo of the seed or spore of their host. Then they can start a new generation in the new host once it sprouts.

They are not harmful to their host and are beneficial to them. Like Earth endophytes, they can help them in a number of ways. Depending on the species, they can produce chemicals that can help protect the flora from herbivores or harmful invaders like parasitic flora. Others will help regulate their host flora's pores for when it's hot and dry they can help the host flora lose less water. These pores also help let carbon dioxide in and oxygen out. Since these are the inputs and outputs of photosynthesis, regulating them can make their host flora more efficient at converting sunlight into fuel. Other species can produce hormones to help make their host flora's roots more efficient at absorbing nutrients from the soil. With all of these extra resources the host flora can grow bigger and produce more fruits and flowers that can spread more seeds and spores, thus spreading these more often.

This post has been edited by Hydromancerx: Jan 11 2023, 11:02 AM

This submission actually puts some restraints on Flora design due to description.

I'll look at it a bit more thoroughly later.

It's nice to see a genus of beneficial symbiotes, though I'm curious if this should be restricted to one "group" of flora, like say black or crystal, but subsequent genus splits each adapt to a different group.

It should be restricted to purple Flora if it's being based off endophytes.

QUOTE (colddigger @ Sep 8 2022, 07:38 PM)
It should be restricted to purple Flora if it's being based off endophytes.


Why though? I agree that purple flora are the most "plant-like" but black flora is very similar too. Infact all the flora have some elements similar to Earth plants. with having leaves and roots for most. Only the reproduction differs with seeds and spores but they function the same.I could understand if they evolved first in purple flora but i don't see why they shouldn't be able to spread to the others once evolved, without needing much change to live in the other types.

This post has been edited by Hydromancerx: Sep 9 2022, 09:30 AM

Actually, only purple flora and black flora are anything like Earth plants. Everything else is significantly and explicitly completely different and would not be compatible with this, most notably crystal flora.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 9 2022, 10:04 AM)
Actually, only purple flora and black flora are anything like Earth plants. Everything else is significantly and explicitly completely different and would not be compatible with this, most notably crystal flora.


How about this. it's limited to purple and black flora. You, colddigger and Nergali help spread it to other flora next gen. That way the workload is spread out to more than just one person. Sound good you guys?

EDIT: Updated to only purple and black flora.

This post has been edited by Hydromancerx: Sep 9 2022, 10:20 AM

Crystals wouldn't really benefit from these at all, though. Neither would any other mixotrophic flora.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 9 2022, 10:18 AM)
Crystals wouldn't really benefit from these at all, though. Neither would any other mixotrophic flora.


So not Crystal Flora or Glass Flora but there are other types too like Bone Flora and Twink Flora.

Even black Flora are only superficially like plants.

I don't see this doing very well in twiinkiro since they're gelatins, but I think a sentence such as

"They are obligate symbionts that can be found in many species of Flora, most heavily among the purple flora"

Could work and leaves them open for specialists that survive in the tissues of other kingdoms.

I would also specify that they only "commonly" interact with the gas exchange pores of flora "that have pores" leaving it open for them to colonize flora without pores, as well as allowing for flora without pores to exist.

QUOTE (Hydromancerx @ Sep 9 2022, 12:53 PM)
QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 9 2022, 10:18 AM)
Crystals wouldn't really benefit from these at all, though. Neither would any other mixotrophic flora.


So not Crystal Flora or Glass Flora but there are other types too like Bone Flora and Twink Flora.


"Twink Flora." Knowing the slang term "twink" exists and is an odd thing to attach to alien organisms, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to draw so much attention to that component of the name. Perhaps yellowflora (to match the color terms "blackflora" and "purpleflora") or "gelatins" or "iiros"?

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Sep 9 2022, 01:06 PM)
QUOTE (Hydromancerx @ Sep 9 2022, 12:53 PM)
QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 9 2022, 10:18 AM)
Crystals wouldn't really benefit from these at all, though. Neither would any other mixotrophic flora.


So not Crystal Flora or Glass Flora but there are other types too like Bone Flora and Twink Flora.


"Twink Flora." Knowing the slang term "twink" exists and is an odd thing to attach to alien organisms, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to draw so much attention to that component of the name. Perhaps yellowflora (to match the color terms "blackflora" and "purpleflora") or "gelatins" or "iiros"?


Their name is derived from them having the appearance of Twinkies, the yellow snack food. Yellow Flora is fine though.

This post has been edited by Hydromancerx: Sep 10 2022, 10:27 AM

Could call them yellow Flora, or kiiros, honestly I think either will work.

Some people might get confused with vandriswoop or something, but that's common names for ya

"These pours also help let carbon dioxide in and oxygen "

Pores not pours, autocorrect and voice to text are silly how they don't acknowledge context.

Approval Checklist:

Art:
Art Present?: y
Art clear?: y
Gen number?: y
All limbs shown?: y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: y
Realistic additions?:

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: y
Creator?: y

Ancestor:
Listed?: y
What changes?:
External?: Specialized cells at the front and back for movement
Internal?:
Behavioral/Mental?: Obligate Symbiotes to some flora
Are Changes Realistic?:
New Genus Needed? (If yes, list why):

Habitat:
Type?: Global
Flavor?:
Connected?: y
Wildcard/Keystone?: possibly


Size:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Within range?: y
Exception?:

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Transition Rule?: n
Reasonable changes (if any)?:

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: y
Does It Fit Habitat?: y
Reasonable changes (if any)?:
Other?:

Description:
Length?: Medium
Capitalized correctly?:
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Split
Other?:

Opinion: Approved;

Subjective Review

The texturing in the background is similar to your standard Hydromancerx swirly-watercolor background, but grainier, suggesting sand. The coloring is pleasant.



Preliminary Review

It may be a symbiote with its host flora, but that doesn't explain what nutrients it uses. Does it use simple sugars, other compounds, or both?

Support: It appears to have cell walls.
Respiration: Passive Diffusion seems the most likely at this scale, given its complexity.
Thermoregulation: At this scale, it would surely be “ectothermic”.

In retrospect, Hexpouruses have a terribly underdeveloped description for.a genus group. Various important traits in the merged genus groups aren’t even mentioned in its description. It may be best to ask TheBigL to update it, although, as it is a microbe genus group and those rarely get attention, it’s not high-urgency.

I noticed the capitalization of species names is inconsistent.
“Ancestor however”: “Ancestor; however”
“To bring in” “which bring in” is better. “
“In its oral groove”: “Into its oral groove”
A quick check suggests the plural is “flagella” or “flagellums”, although “flagella” seems more standard.
“To help”-> “which help”

“Extreme temperature”: “extreme temperatures”.
“Safe inside the flora”: this needs a comma at the end.
“This doesn’t cost the flora much so it can keep growing healthy”. What does “it” refer to? Can you clarify this?
“They are not harmful to their host”: if it has multiple host species, the grammar should be adjusted.
“Endophytes”: this should not be capitalized.
“Endophytes they”: Endophytes, they.
“Species they”: Species, they.

“Its hot”: It’s hot.
“Loose”: lose.
“These pours”: Do you mean “pores”, or “‘pours”, as a shortened form for Symbiopouruses or its relatives?
“While other species” The “while” doesn’t make sense. The easiest solution is to omit the “while”.
“Fruits, flowers”: the simplest solution is adding an “and” after the comma.
“Spores. Thus” -> “spores, thus”.
Does “them” refer to the frequency of spreading events in the flora, or there microbes?


I recommend reading the descriptions out loud to check for choppy sentences. The Oatmeal provides a humorous guide to punctuation, though it mostly teaches about the use of semicolons. (https://www.theoatmeal.com/comics/semicolon)

Suggestions
Since this is a genus group, I would recommend adding a little more detail, such as elaborating on the chemicals it uses.



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