I think the "pupa" of this group might need more elaboration than this. Pupation came out of nowhere in this lineage and might actually be detrimental.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Sep 16 2022, 12:55 PM)
I think the "pupa" of this group might need more elaboration than this. Pupation came out of nowhere in this lineage and might actually be detrimental.


Added some more info.

"Pupa develop under the sand or mud of the bodies of water they live in. If in a cryobowl it is just at the bottom of the bowl." These sentences can be merged.
It's good to see more small, insectoid local species. I'll have to go over the habitat list later.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Sep 16 2022, 01:23 PM)
"Pupa develop under the sand or mud of the bodies of water they live in. If in a cryobowl it is just at the bottom of the bowl." These sentences can be merged.
It's good to see more small, insectoid local species. I'll have to go over the habitat list later.


Thanks. And yeah basically every Temperate and Sub-Polar Body of water (and riparian or beach) in Drake.

How do they make the pupa? What is described sounds like they waste energy to do an unnecessary step of making their bodies hard and then softening them back up later when there is no reason they can't have functional juveniles.

Theoretically, pupation could help them survive winter in the subpolar or temperate climates. Some butterflies do this.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Sep 16 2022, 02:02 PM)
Theoretically, pupation could help them survive winter in the subpolar or temperate climates. Some butterflies do this.


Good idea. I will do that.

"It has specialized to be a planktovore"

planktivore? That's how it's listed in diet.

"are now used as foot to stand on "

as a foot, I think.

"Those in the coast where the water dosn't free still go through"

doesn't, and, freeze.






Something that crosses my mind with these, and plent bones, and such, is that although we call them cellulose based they're probably actually really heavy on lignification and other hardening compounds.
Since they're supposed to be really tough and all.
Regarding the exoskeleton and pupa.

This post has been edited by colddigger: Nov 3 2022, 04:53 PM

How does it feed without tearing its face off?

I guess if these things hover, or move very slowly they'd be able to pull it off.

But, really that would have to be pretty slow. If there was a means for water to escape toward the back end or underneath or something then maybe they can move faster? They would certainly be able to pull off filtering out more water and one go as opposed to repeatedly having to fill their mouth and then spit the water out.


QUOTE (colddigger @ Nov 3 2022, 04:53 PM)
"It has specialized to be a planktovore"

planktivore? That's how it's listed in diet.

"are now used as foot to stand on "

as a foot, I think.

"Those in the coast where the water dosn't free still go through"

doesn't, and, freeze.






Something that crosses my mind with these, and plent bones, and such, is that although we call them cellulose based they're probably actually really heavy on lignification and other hardening compounds.
Since they're supposed to be really tough and all.
Regarding the exoskeleton and pupa.


Fixed.

"It must fly slowly hovering over the water."

maybe add "during feeding" to this to cover preventing damage, but also allowing people to understand that it could move fast if it needed to.

Approval Checklist:
Art:
Art Present?: Y
Art clear?: Y
Gen number?: Y
All limbs shown?: Y
Reasonably Comparable to Ancestor?: Y
Realistic additions?: Y

Name:
Binomial Taxonomic Name?: Y
Creator?: Y

Ancestor:
Listed?: Y
What changes?:
  • External?: Foot
  • Internal?: Mouth Bristles
  • Behavioral/Mental?:
Are Changes Realistic?:
New Genus Needed?: Yes, the body is too different(why)

Habitat:
Type?: 2/3
Flavor?: 3/3
Connected?: Y
Wildcard?: N/A

Size:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Within range?: Y
Exception?: N/A

Support:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Diet:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Transition Rule?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A

Respiration:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Thermoregulation:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Reproduction:
Same as Ancestor?: Y
Does It Fit Habitat?: Y
Reasonable changes (if any)?: N/A
Other?: N/A

Description:
Length?: Could be longer
Capitalized correctly?: N
Replace/Split from ancestor?: Split
Other?:

Opinion: Pending: Needs a new genus

Genus is fixed and approved