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@Future Tyrannosaurus Welcome to the Sagan 4 team! Please repost your submission as a thread.

QUOTE (Primalpikachu @ Feb 25 2023, 09:56 AM)
I have now made the organisms one image and have proportioned them more appropriately to reflect the smaller size of the species with fewer segments

This is actually what I meant by it being two genera--you gave it two morphologies and two different diets. What if something happens that would kill the 6 winged ones but not the 4 winged ones? I suggest making the submission be only the 6 winged ones, and have the 4 winged ones be a descendant for next gen.

While a genus in real life might have a little more variation, for Sagan 4 group submissions we are counting those kinds of differences as belonging to different genera, especially if these organisms are not likely to evolve back and forth into one another.

Ok, I'll be sure to change that third dude.

I have edited the third oligopod to have three pairs of panels

Got a different name for the Argonauts

the.... Gorgonauts

Fixed Gorgonaut reproduction🤞

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Name: Homashelix (Duoaetes spiraefolium)
Creator: HethrJarrod
Habitat: Darwin Taiga, Fermi Taiga
Size: 1 meter tall
Support: Woody Trunk (Lignin)
Diet: Photosynthesis
Respiration: Passive (Stomata)
Thermoregulation: Ectotherm
Reproduction: Sexual (metagenesis, spores)

The Homashelix has split from its ancestor and spread to the Darwin Taiga through the flyway. It has a continuous frond spiraling up its trunk, allowing it access to reproduction across its entire length. It can grow up to 1 meter in height, and has a lifespan of 25 years, reaching maturity around the age of 5. Their root system is also like their ancestors as well, broad and shallow, extending out to 1 meter from the base of the trunk.

To help it survive the winter, they move nutrients from the fronds into the trunk, like the Homashidis. At the end of the polar night, when the snow begins to melt, the Homashelix will shed its fronds.

In its ancestor, the Homashidis, the spore and the gametes are unprotected from the elements, hence its reliance on rainstorms. Rather than waiting for rainfall events, the Homashelix has developed a casing to protect the spores and gametes against drying out.

The casing is located at the base of the fronds of the Homashelix. When the fronds are shed, the capsules are carried along with them.
This casing dissolves when it comes into contact with water, allowing for the Homashelix to be more adapted to colder and drier conditions. This adaptation increases the amount of time the spores and gametes are viable before germinating.

This post has been edited by HethrJarrod: Mar 6 2023, 03:31 PM

@HethrJarrod I'm gonna assume this is taking over as your entry submission. That description is a tad bare bones. Could you elaborate on habitat preferences and how the spore casing works?

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Mar 2 2023, 06:31 PM)
@HethrJarrod I'm gonna assume this is taking over as your entry submission. That description is a tad bare bones. Could you elaborate on habitat preferences and how the spore casing works?


Yes. Added to it and corrected a miswording about overwintering.

I have made the image for the oligopods better and edited their scientific name to be better Latin.

This post has been edited by Primalpikachu: Mar 5 2023, 07:54 AM

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Ferrocluster (Ferrumcarcer botrifilamentis)

Creator: transfemgodtamer
Ancestor: Ferrofilament
Habitat: West Barlowe Temperate Undersea Forest
Size(s): Roughly 0.1 millimeters for individual cells, 3.5 - 3.8 mm for the entire colony in terms of width.
Support: Unknown, due to the support of the Ferrofilament being unknown.
Diet: Lithotroph (Iron), Detritivore
Respiration: Unknown, due to the respiration of the Ferrofilament being unknown.
Thermoregulation: Ectothermic
Reproduction: Asexual (Binary fission), Sexual (Gametes, Auxospores)

The ferrocluster is a species that evolved from the ferrofilament. Splitting from its ancestor due to the different conditions of the West Barlowe Temperate Undersea Forest, it had a greater need to guard against predators. This resulted in the evolution of the ferrocluster, which could be described as a colony organism. The Ferrocluster uses the rich resources of the undersea forest for its own benefit.

The ferrocluster consists of numerous 100 um (0.1 mm) cells that are in two groups: somewhat thin cell colonies similar to a ferrofilament that are 1.5 millimeters long and whose number can vary, ranging from 2-"tentacled" colonies to colonies with 7 "tentacles", and a central "clump" of similarly-sized cells that each filament "attaches" to. While the structure may resemble fauna, it is absolutely not fauna - every cell in the colony is capable of living on its own, and it is in fact a colonial organism.

Congregating around detritus of lifeforms, these colonies are often sedentary, resulting in the somewhat disturbing appearance of red, tentacled "masses" on the bodies of dead creatures. The cells within the colony use sexual reproduction less than the ferrofilament's cells, and the colonies can also often be seen near iron deposits, feeding upon them.

@transfemgodtamer, here's a review.

I doubt Ferrofilaments could be endothermic. At that size, even if it were endothermic, it would lose all its heat. You can therefore assume it’s ectothermic.

The picture is very small. It may be one of the smallest pictures I’ve ever seen for a submission.

“A need to guard more against predators began to emerge over time - a need more than the ferrofilament’s.” This would be grammatically clearer as, “it had a greater need to guard against predators”.
“And uses the rich”. The easiest solution is to make the comma after “colony organism” a period, and making the next sentence begin with: “The Ferrocluster”.

It’s easier to read as (“100 um (0.1 mm) cells”).


QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Mar 7 2023, 05:20 PM)
@transfemgodtamer, here's a review.

I doubt Ferrofilaments could be endothermic. At that size, even if it were endothermic, it would lose all its heat. You can therefore assume it’s ectothermic.

The picture is very small. It may be one of the smallest pictures I’ve ever seen for a submission.

“A need to guard more against predators began to emerge over time - a need more than the ferrofilament’s.” This would be grammatically clearer as, “it had a greater need to guard against predators”.
“And uses the rich”. The easiest solution is to make the comma after “colony organism” a period, and making the next sentence begin with: “The Ferrocluster”.

It’s easier to read as (“100 um (0.1 mm) cells”).


ohhhhh ok. also the picture is small since my art style tends to go for pixel stuff, meaning most art i make is small

also thank u for the suggestions. is it fine if i edit the original reply i made?

Yes, it is fine (and recommended) to edit the original post you made. Although the picture is small, and I personally recommend making future submission images bigger, the organism depicted is clearly shown, so it should be acceptable as it is.

I do not recall any organism art being explicitly pixel art, although there are a few which are clearly made in a simple style on Microsoft Paint, and even at least two which have blocky, jagged lineart. In any case, this art style is acceptable.

Your submission is remarkably high quality for an entry submission. Personally, I would recommend keeping up the excellent English usage you've displayed in your submission for other communications here. You may receive messages to the contrary, but I do much of the submission approval here, and I conjecture I would encounter fewer errors in organism submissions if members gained more practice in proper English use outside of the submissions themselves.

@transfemgodtamer @Primalpikachu @HethrJarrod welcome to the Sagan 4 Beta team! You all may now repost your submissions as threads on the submission subforum.



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