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Is it even possible for a beach-dwelling tree to grow to 100 meters? Coconuts grow up to 30 meters tall. The tallest Australian pine tree (Casuarina equisetifolia) specimen on Turtle Beach, Florida, is 27.80 meters tall. (https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/heightrecords/usa/florida/). Date palms, which seem capable of living on the beach, typically grow to 21-23 meters tall. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_palm) The Mangrove forests of Suriname, which seem especially tall for mangroves, reach 20-25 meters tall.

Unless it can be justified, I recommend either drastically reducing the size, or limiting it to swamps and/or rainforests.

I don't think trees grow that big grow in marshes...marshes and swamps are different, unless it's just a case of Sagan 4 Alpha timeline terminology being weird.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Apr 18 2021, 12:10 AM)

Is it even possible for a beach-dwelling tree to grow to 100 meters? Coconuts grow up to 30 meters tall. The tallest Australian pine tree (Casuarina equisetifolia) specimen on Turtle Beach, Florida, is 27.80 meters tall. (https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/heightrecords/usa/florida/). Date palms, which seem capable of living on the beach, typically grow to 21-23 meters tall. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_palm) The Mangrove forests of Suriname, which seem especially tall for mangroves, reach 20-25 meters tall. Unless it can be justified, I recommend either drastically reducing the size, or limiting it to swamps and/or rainforests. I don't think trees grow that big grow in marshes...marshes and swamps are different, unless it's just a case of Sagan 4 Alpha timeline terminology being weird.

I'm not married to 100 m, but I did intend for these to be large to help it live out in the coastal water. The restrictions on the height of trees is due to their ability to pull moisture up to their tallest branches. The upward theoretical limit on earth is about 130 m.

I believe coconuts get to only 30 m because they prioritizing reaching reproductive size quickly instead of longevity

Any tweaks suggested?

You could mention a regular toppling of individuals before reaching maximum height due to storms or erosion or whatever else the ocean spits at them.

I prefer to comment on organisms once they are complete, and this one doesn't have an image yet. I'll go over it more thoroughly once an image is added.

Is there any chance you could expedite this? I have species ideas for next gen that, while not dependent on it, will be severely affected by it on a multi-paragraph edit level.

There should have been an update to this page once the picture was added: then I could have responded faster.

"as a means of cultivating future stocks of building materials." I doubt the Shrews can plan for the future so far ahead. Squirrels don't bury acorns to make oak trees later.

"vurtually identical" Virtually.

I'll go over the rest of it tomorrow.

All those sandbars and shoals from former high-elevation areas of Barlowe being significant enough to make footholds for trees seems so geographically notable as to justify a landmark, if a very big one, and at least for the continuous loop between Barlowe, Ovi, and Solipimr. It's one thing to say something like, "clumps of driftwood and broken-down Seashrog nests occasionally pass though the ocean" and another to make the Driftwood Islands.

This post has been edited by Coolsteph: Apr 30 2021, 08:52 PM

It may be important to note that non-shrog tamjacks in particular are very smart; if shrogs are like great apes, the more basal jacks could be likened to lesser apes or old-world monkeys. It's not enough for full-on agriculture, but they could easily understand how plants grow well enough to have that kind of foresight, especially given they're instinctive nest builders. (think of how you, an instinctive tool-maker, might think about the creation of makeshift tools)

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ May 1 2021, 04:45 AM)

There should have been an update to this page once the picture was added: then I could have responded faster.

Oh, I didn't post because it wasn't done just yet.

The description is finalized, and while I'm not happy with the image yet it's probably good enough to submit as is.