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I like the color scheme, pose and angle.

"Mannar" should be "manner".

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Jul 3 2021, 06:30 PM)

I like the color scheme, pose and angle. "Mannar" should be "manner".

Thanks! Oh btw, do you have any genus name ideas? Im asking because the genus Pterocimex do not seem fitting for this taxon the more I think about it.

Alright, made the edit!

This post has been edited by OviraptorFan: Jul 3 2021, 05:31 PM

These still exist in polar habitats. Do they exist in the lower latitudes of those habitats? Do they migrate? Do they have short lifespans in the polar habitats, and the population overwinters as eggs?

I suggest the pseudo-classical "Pontoonus" or "Ratis". The latter is a Latin word that means "pontoon bridge", as well as "raft", "boat", and "ship". (The Greeks used pontoons, but as bridges, not boats. Romans also used pontoon bridges.)

I'm not sure if metamorphosis should be part of the reproduction line.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Jul 3 2021, 11:27 PM)

These still exist in polar habitats. Do they exist in the lower latitudes of those habitats? Do they migrate? Do they have short lifespans in the polar habitats, and the population overwinters as eggs? I suggest the pseudo-classical "Pontoonus" or "Ratis". The latter is a Latin word that means "pontoon bridge", as well as "raft", "boat", and "ship". (The Greeks used pontoons, but as bridges, not boats. Romans also used pontoon bridges.) I'm not sure if metamorphosis should be part of the reproduction line.

Hmm, I think they would likely only inhabit the southern parts of the polar habitats. I can probably add that to the description.

So what, Raticimex aka "boat-bug" or something?

Well in both the ancestor of the Tonbodiver and the ancestor of its ancestor, being the Seaplane Tonboswarmer and Tonboswarmer respectively. Their reproductive bit says this.

"Reproduction: Sexual, Spawning in Water or Cryobowls, Two Genders, Metamorphosis (Lava, Pupa, Adult)".

And the description of the Tonboswarmer mentions how their larvae resemble typical swarmers.

"however, the tonbodivers do not fair" That's a typo: it should be "fare".

"Cimex" means "bug", yes, but also "bedbug". It would make sense if it's a "bug" that resembles a bedbug, but this looks more like a dragonfly than a bedbug. "Volucris" refers to birds, but also other flying creatures. "Volucrisratis" could mean "pontoon flying-creature". The short name "Ratis" would also work, too. Ratites (wingless birds like ostritches and emus) derive the name from the same word, but don't go by the same genus name. The genus name Ratis for a hydrozoan has since been replaced by the name Porpita.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Jul 4 2021, 12:16 AM)

"however, the tonbodivers do not fair" That's a typo: it should be "fare". "Cimex" means "bug", yes, but also "bedbug". It would make sense if it's a "bug" that resembles a bedbug, but this looks more like a dragonfly than a bedbug. "Volucris" refers to birds, but also other flying creatures. "Volucrisratis" could mean "pontoon flying-creature". The short name "Ratis" would also work, too. Ratites (wingless birds like ostritches and emus) derive the name from the same word, but don't go by the same genus name. The genus name Ratis for a hydrozoan has since been replaced by the name Porpita.

Fixed the typo!

So should I use Volucrisratis? Remember this new genus name will be used for the Seaplane Tonboswarmer as well along with possibly the original Tonboswarmer also being in the genus.

Well, the original Tonboswarmer doesn't rest on the surface of the water with pontoon-wings, so putting it in "Ratis" is...odd. I'm sure that, in real-life, there are members of genuses which don't match what the name of the genus means, but it is strange. "Volucris" would fit them all, but it's an awfully nonspecific name for an organism made so late in Sagan 4's history, when it makes more sense to give to one of the first few flying organisms.

Should there be an image of the pupa

QUOTE (colddigger @ Jul 4 2021, 05:02 PM)

Should there be an image of the pupa

The image of a pupa is not present in the ancestors of this species. I was only able to do a larva because one of their relatives had a larvae depicted.

Makes sense.
Is there any description of what the pupa does?
Like does it float like a mosquito, or stick to something, or sink?

Is a pupa even realistic for this organism? From my observation, every single pupa on Sagan 4 Alpha is implausible, a waste of energy, and easy to lose.

QUOTE (Disgustedorite @ Jul 4 2021, 06:46 PM)

Is a pupa even realistic for this organism? From my observation, every single pupa on Sagan 4 Alpha is implausible, a waste of energy, and easy to lose.

Okay then, how does a reasonable pupa develop?

A pupa in real life is the entirety of an insect's nymph stage compressed into one. No organism on Sagan 4 can evolve it because there are no species which have a larva -> nymph -> adult lifecycle.

An alternative is a cocoon, but a cocoon is useless or even detrimental unless the larva -> adult transitional stage is unweildy or unfit or takes too much energy to transition to. I don't think that would be the case for this organism.

Have pupa or their equivalent developed more than once on earth?

QUOTE (colddigger @ Jul 4 2021, 11:00 PM)

Have pupa or their equivalent developed more than once on earth?

They only exist in a single clade of insects, the Endopterygota, and seem to have only evolved once.