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Generation 164 is closed. All slots are filled. Unless something is rejected, you will need to resubmit this next gen.

I saw no "submissions are now closed" note on the forum.

I might sacrifice the Sunleechers and bump them to Week 23, opening this slot

Sacrifice? That sounds harsh...do you think it's best to put long-planned genus groups at the beginning of a week, or is this just a courtesy? What's your reasoning? I

The logic is that the Week 23 retcon submissions are dedicated near entirely to fixing the genus groups, so slotting this in back then might be doable.

There is now space in Gen 164 for this submission

I have completed the description. Unfortunately, I made it more disgusting than originally intended, but I wrote myself into a corner with their strict herbivory, tiny young, and super-fast growth rates, but underdeveloped parental care and no milk.

So wait, what is going on with the front feet? Has the Pseudoapirus genus lost their third toe on their front feet because I can only see two toes on here.

I had made the art for this before the inexplicable possible toe loss of various thornbacks was pointed out. Kopout still hasn't responded, though.

I think I still have the original file, so if any adjustments are necessary to the leg shape or musculature, it should be pointed out now.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Aug 28 2021, 10:08 PM)

I had made the art for this before the inexplicable possible toe loss of various thornbacks was pointed out. Kopout still hasn't responded, though. I think I still have the original file, so if any adjustments are necessary to the leg shape or musculature, it should be pointed out now.

Well judging by the artwork of the Durambi itself, it appears the species was supposed to have 3 toes on the front limbs and I remember Nergali himself telling me his early thornback depictions(like pre-project hiatus species) were supposed to have 2 back toes on each foot. So I recommend adding back in the third toe on the front feet(and if possible, perhaps you can fix those of the Duramboar which also has this problem).

The artwork certainly doesn't look like it has three toes on the front feet...
Would it make sense to alter the Duramboar art to have two toes on the front feet, and the Duramceri to have one toe on the front feet?

Duramboars and Duramceris both migrate, and have significant populations in the tundra and desert, which would be open environments where such large herd-dwelling herbivores would find it difficult to hide very well. They'd have to be at least fairly good at running away, since they aren't particularly well-equipped to defend themselves with, say, horns and fangs or armor. Their evolution could somewhat parallel that of horses, justifying toe loss over time.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Aug 28 2021, 11:00 PM)

The artwork certainly doesn't look like it has three toes on the front feet... Would it make sense to alter the Duramboar art to have two toes on the front feet, and the Duramceri to have one toe on the front feet? Duramboars and Duramceris both migrate, and have significant populations in the tundra and desert, which would be open environments where such large herd-dwelling herbivores would find it difficult to hide very well. They'd have to be at least fairly good at running away, since they aren't particularly well-equipped to defend themselves with, say, horns and fangs or armor. Their evolution could somewhat parallel that of horses, justifying toe loss over time.

Hmm, I guess that could work, but then I recommend proposing that the Duramboar needs its description edited to reflect this then. Also I imagine you would need the opinions of others on this idea as well.

Final call on changes

Kopout still hasn't responded on the number of toes in Thornbacks. Should I proceed to modify the art on the Duramboar to depict two toes on the forefeet and two on the hind feet, and Duramceri art to have only one toe on each foot, and mention toe loss in both descriptions?

"Only the shoulder spikes contain bony elements: the thigh spikes are keratinous structures"

Was this a thing in the ancestor that already had elaboration?
I am curious because of the thigh spike is keratinous then where is the blood flowing into for chilling it?
It's this like a claw, where there is some flesh kind of inside it?

"Since since they don’t poke out of the mouth, they aren’t quite tusks."

There is duplicate here

This post has been edited by colddigger: Sep 17 2021, 06:31 PM