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There's a typo: "thru" should be "through".
"Front facing" would be easier to read as "front-facing".
"became of overt" Do you mean "more overt"?

There sure are a lot more travel hazards for Seashrogs than there used to be. I wonder how the species will respond to it.

I feel like you should further elaborate on how this taxon evolved, as the Chumsnapper is an absolutely ancient taxon. Also I feel like those front teeth seem ill-suited for cutting through shrog rafts, if anything these teeth look more like they are trying to act like a beak or something. I myself was planning on using the Chumsnapper for its own species, one that moves further into river habitats and opportunistically wanders onto land.

This post has been edited by OviraptorFan: Aug 28 2021, 04:51 PM

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Aug 29 2021, 12:48 AM)

I feel like those front teeth seem ill-suited for cutting through shrog rafts, if anything these teeth look more like they are trying to act like a beak or something.

they don’t cut thru the raft, the act more like a wedge to get into the seams and split at the weak points between logs.

QUOTE (MNIDJM @ Aug 28 2021, 10:08 PM)

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Aug 29 2021, 12:48 AM) I feel like those front teeth seem ill-suited for cutting through shrog rafts, if anything these teeth look more like they are trying to act like a beak or something. they don’t cut thru the raft, the act more like a wedge to get into the seams and split at the weak points between logs.

"To aid in this, their front teeth have become more front facing and deep set into their skulls and jaws, allowing them to act as a slice to cut thru the raft seams."
Please edit this then.

"...which they will do by diving below seashrog rafts, and quickly breaching underneath the rafts in an attempt to cause the raft to capsize."

If they do they, then they will likely ram into wood which can leave cuts and scrapes on their skin, do they have any protection against such a thing?

If they are much larger than their ancestor, then I think the marshes and swamps their ancestor called home may be a bit too crowded for them to really move around in, I imagine they would likely prefer to breed in the open beach habitats.
Honestly I think my biggest problem with the species right now is that the artwork depicting this species does not exactly fit the proposed lifestyle(which makes sense, since I imagine this was made for a different descendant of the chumsnapper). I would recommend updating the picture to better reflect its proposed lifestyle.

Also I just asked Nergali about toes, and he told me the Hydrosnapper(which gave rise to the Chumsnapper which in turn gives rise to this guy) has 3 toes on the front feet and 2 on the back feet. So I suggest either adding on an extra toe to the artwork of your bois or explain why they may have lost the toe.

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If they are much larger than their ancestor, then I think the marshes and swamps their ancestor called home may be a bit too crowded for them to really move around in, I imagine they would likely prefer to breed in the open beach habitats. Honestly I think my biggest problem with the species right now is that the artwork depicting this species does not exactly fit the proposed lifestyle(which makes sense, since I imagine this was made for a different descendant of the chumsnapper). I would recommend updating the picture to better reflect its proposed lifestyle.

Male saltwater crocodiles can reach 7 meters long, and they inhabit mangrove swamps. Females of the species grow to about 3 meters long, though.

For other references:
Biggest Mekong giant catfish: 2.7 meters.
Largest freshwater shark: about 2.8 meters.

I just looked at the topic sub-title...12 years, you say? I think that's worth putting in the submission trivia. It's certainly longer than my own long-delayed pre-hiatus designs. I've never actually seen the Chumsnapper page before, and I'm shocked to see it's from Generation 137, long before I showed up around Generation 153.

QUOTE (Coolsteph @ Aug 29 2021, 05:45 AM)

I just looked at the topic sub-title...12 years, you say? I think that's worth putting in the submission trivia. It's certainly longer than my own long-delayed pre-hiatus designs. I've never actually seen the Chumsnapper page before, and I'm shocked to see it's from Generation 137, long before I showed up around Generation 153.

Yeah this dude was meant for ~gen 138-140 but was lost due to the snowball

QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Aug 28 2021, 10:30 PM)

QUOTE (MNIDJM @ Aug 28 2021, 10:08 PM) QUOTE (OviraptorFan @ Aug 29 2021, 12:48 AM) I feel like those front teeth seem ill-suited for cutting through shrog rafts, if anything these teeth look more like they are trying to act like a beak or something. they don’t cut thru the raft, the act more like a wedge to get into the seams and split at the weak points between logs. "To aid in this, their front teeth have become more front facing and deep set into their skulls and jaws, allowing them to act as a slice to cut thru the raft seams." Please edit this then. "...which they will do by diving below seashrog rafts, and quickly breaching underneath the rafts in an attempt to cause the raft to capsize." If they do they, then they will likely ram into wood which can leave cuts and scrapes on their skin, do they have any protection against such a thing? Also I just asked Nergali about toes, and he told me the Hydrosnapper(which gave rise to the Chumsnapper which in turn gives rise to this guy) has 3 toes on the front feet and 2 on the back feet. So I suggest either adding on an extra toe to the artwork of your bois or explain why they may have lost the toe.

Will you address these?

I can add a line about a reinforced skull and jaw to help with diffusing the force of the impact.

As for the front toes, they are like their ancestor, the "missing" toe is just obscured. I'll add the missing legs to show it

In all sincerity, IIRC, this is just a slightly edited version of a very old picture and I think you can do better TBH. I'd recommend doing a new picture altogether.

I don't think using old art is an issue. It's comprehensible.

I agree. There is no rule against using outdated art, as long as it is accurate and comprehensible. I myself plan to release some very old art of some Kruggs sometime.

QUOTE (MNIDJM @ Sep 5 2021, 12:32 PM)

I can add a line about a reinforced skull and jaw to help with diffusing the force of the impact. As for the front toes, they are like their ancestor, the "missing" toe is just obscured. I'll add the missing legs to show it

Have you made the edits regarding the head yet?